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Waymond Bear1
08-27-07, 05:27 PM
Where did TCU signal representing frogclaws orginate?

Ol Waco Ag
08-27-07, 06:04 PM
From what some TCU buddies have told me .....It started in the 80's a combo of the SMU two fingers straight out and the sips Hook'em symbol BUT they didn't want the fingers to closely resemble the Hook'em sign....

Therefore, the two fingers that make the hand look like it has arthritis or need of Benny Hinn to heal them..........

Doc
08-27-07, 06:09 PM
Always heard it was because a male student at TCWho had never seen the camel toe and hence the hand sign was born. To this day....they still haven't seen it.

tommie
08-27-07, 06:35 PM
Always heard it was because a male student at TCWho had never seen the camel toe and hence the hand sign was born. To this day....they still haven't seen it.

:scream :scream

zebbie
08-27-07, 07:39 PM
Maybe one of the resident frogs can confirm this. I'm fairly certain that two gay lovers-- who happened to be students at TCU-- made it up. Kinda makes sense, given how gay the hand signal is.....

GehornterFrosch
08-27-07, 08:24 PM
http://www.magazine.tcu.edu/articles/2001-03-CV4.asp

It happens at the end of every football game: as the first note of the Alma Mater rings out, fans rise and hands go up, fingers curled just so and waving regally. It's the sign of the Frog, a hand sign tradition that dates back to 1980. Back then, head cheerleader Chad Schrotel '82 and others decided a hand signal for the Frogs would be a great way to show solidarity and promote Frog spirit.

They settled on the curled fingers salute, at left, because the protruding knuckles resembled the horns on a frog. (Other stories suggest the curled finger sign emanated from the hand position one uses to "frog" someone with a quick jab to the arm or leg.)
It took a while to catch on. They taught it to the incoming freshmen at Orientation, they flashed it at alumni gatherings and they got the Wranglers, a now-defunct spirit group, to wave it en masse at the games.

It was good timing. SuperFrog made a grand entrance that year and the basketball team adopted the Killer Frog moniker. While not the oldest mascot hand sign in the nation, it now is part of the Frog tradition that includes "Riff Ram Bah Zoo," which numbers among the oldest cheers in the nation.

A side note about college traditions: During the 1930 football game between TCU and Texas A&M, one spirited Aggie began to holler "Gig 'em Aggies," using a common frog hunting term. While the call stuck, it didn't help that year . . . the Frogs won, 3-0. Interestingly enough, the introduction of the UT horns hand sign also corresponded with a TCU game in 1955. Again, the Frogs won, 47-20.

gohornedfrogs
08-27-07, 08:41 PM
Back then, head cheerleader Chad Schrotel '82 and others decided a hand signal for the Frogs would be a great way to show solidarity and promote Frog spirit.
Yes, that is the Chad Schrotel that lives in Waco, in case any of you know him.

Oh, and he had seen plenty of camel toe long before he went to TCU...

MrGolfguy
08-28-07, 08:36 AM
Yes, that is the Chad Schrotel that lives in Waco, in case any of you know him.
I played golf with him once, many years ago.

Ol Waco Ag
08-28-07, 10:36 AM
Chad is a good guy and a die-hard TCU man .......You wish good things for TCU when it come to guys like him and another Waco Horned Frog , Ralph Lee.You cannot find two better reps of TCU in Waco than those two gentlemen.

The " Gig'em " deal is about right. In the old , old , old army days, the gig was when a cadet got a demerit and the upper classmen would signal with his thumb the gig and report "Cadet so n so failed to have his brass shined , gig'em two rams " Thus when the Ags played the frogs , freshmen cadets tired of getting themselves " gig'ed " all the time coined the phrase for their Cowtown rival.....

Man, I do miss those trips to AGC . Its a great backdrop to college football .West Ft Worth is really,really pretty ....Nothing like a Saturday afternoon of college football in Ft Worth.........Then hit Joe T. Garcia's after the game.....Boys and girls , it doesn't get any better than that.....

Enjoy your trip to Ft Worth ......and " GIG'EM "

xoxoxoxoxo

OWA