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Old 03-19-2008, 07:05 AM
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Purdue's Preview of Baylor

Tuesday, March 18, 2008

NCAA Tournament Round 1: Baylor Bears


http://bp0.blogger.com/__-Ky4UmDAUE/...320/baylor.gifFirst off, a quick programming note: We are now officially live at offthetracks.org. All previous bookmarks will re-direct to the new site. All sign-ins for comments should be the same as it was on blogger. Nothing should really change on your end, but it is still an exciting time as we have finally gone live at the new address.

What is also exciting is that I finally have a new opponent to preview. It's nice to have some variety after covering the same teams for the last two and a half months. We're just two days away from the opening tip of the NCAA's. It is looking more and more like Purdue will take the role of favored team in its first round game for the first time since 2000. That season we were also a 6 seed in the West, opening against Dayton. We managed to escape with a 1-point victory that also propelled us to wins over 3 seed Oklahoma and 10 seed Gonzaga. Wisconsin ended our Final Four bid in the regional final, which was doubly depressing since I was a sophomore at Purdue that year and the Final Four was down the road in Indianapolis. In the "what might have been" category we had played every team in that Final Four (Michigan State, Wisconsin, Florida, and North Carolina), beating three of them at least once in the process. We had knocked off Florida out in Maui before losing to the Tar Heels in a close championship game.

Of all the schools in the Big Ten it appears that Wisconsin has been the bane of our existence since the beginning of the decade. Considering the pain they have caused us in both football and basketball and the way they have prevented our rise nationally, we should be pretty pissed off at them. Fortunately, we don't have to worry about them until the National Championship game. It's unlikely we are going to get that far, but how vindicating would it be to turn the tables on them by denying them a National Championship by beating them a third time after all they have done to us? For now, however, let's get back to the opponent at hand in the Baylor Bears.

Baylor so far:

Baylor has obviously had a pretty good season, otherwise they wouldn't be in the NCAA Tournament. They even have a blog, making them a dangerous foe in the world of fandom. They come in with a 21-10 overall record and 9-7 record in Big 12 play. They have stumbled down the stretch, including a bad double overtime loss to last place Colorado in the Big 12 tournament. They are making their first NCAA appearance since 1988. It makes me old to think that most of their current roster was in diapers the last time Baylor played in the tournament, if they were even born yet. In an interesting twist they were a first round loser to Memphis by a 75-60 score that year. We defeated the Tigers that year in round 2, 100-73, meaning a second round matchup that season was possible. The Bears do have a bit of history in the tournament by appearing in the 1948 and 1950 Final Fours, but this marks just their fifth NCAA tournament appearance, and only second since 1950. It should also be noted that the 1946, 1948, and 1950 appearances came when only 8 teams played in the tournament.

For all the good work that coach Painter has done, I am more impressed with what Scott Drew has done at Baylor. Drew is in his 5th season, and to say he took over a team in disarray is like saying the Pacific Ocean is a little damp. Coach Painter merely inherited a team that lacked talent recruited by a legend on the downside of his career. Drew took over a program that was in the midst of a full-fledged scandal of epic proportions. This scandal saw a player murdered by a teammate, the coach asking players to lie about said murder, drug use, recruiting violations, lying to investigators, and basically everything that makes any other NCAA scandal look like a quilting ring. This resulted in the Bears facing the harshest penalty in NCAA basketball history when they were not allowed to play any non-conference games for the 2005-06 season.

We recently played the Bears in the midst of that scandal. During Drew's first season (2003-04) while the Bears were being investigated we defeated them in Waco 76-65. The very next year, in coach Keady's, final season we suffered maybe the worst home defeat of his illustrious career when a team of walk-ons and scrubs came into Mackey Arena and beat the Boilers 73-72 on Brandon McKnight's completely stupid foul in the final five seconds with the score tied. I was actually at that game, and I could not believe how dumb McKnight's play was. It's like he couldn't see one of the 11 scoreboards and see the score was indeed tied, and he was a senior point guard! Still, credit needs to be given to a Baylor team for fighting through that game when they were essentially playing only for pride.

Both teams have come a long way in that time, and from Baylor's current season we have plenty of reasons to be nervous about this game. We share a pair of common opponents in Iowa State and Missouri, both of whom the Bears beat. The Bears did have the luxury of playing both at home while Purdue played both away from Mackey Arena. We are also a much different team now than when we lost to the Tigers and Cyclones. Most people would pick Purdue in a rematch. The Bears gained 15 of their 21 wins in the season's first 17 games and had some impressive wins over Notre Dame, Winthrop (an NCAA Tournament team), and at South Carolina. Since winning an epic 5 overtime game at Texas A&M in January Baylor has gone just 5-8. They lost to some very good teams in that span like Kansas and Texas (twice), but the loss to Colorado was pretty bad. Baylor is here because they had a good non-conference season and beat the bubble teams in its own conference. Against NCAA teams from its own conference Baylor went 2-6, and 5-8 overall. We were 4-3 against NCAA teams this season, so they are probably more tested than us

Who is dangerous for the Bears:

I think the closest opponent on our own schedule to Baylor in terms of style of play is Missouri. The Bears love to get up and down the court and they are certainly capable of scoring. They have four players averaging more than 12 points per game, and two more that throw in more than 8 per game. The Bears get more than 71 points per game from their top six players alone. Junior guard Curtis Jerrells is the leading scorer at 14.9 points per game. He is helped by freshman guard LaceDarius Dunn (13.5 ppg), junior forward Kevin Rogers (12.4 points, 8.6 rebounds), and junior guard Henry Dugat (12.1 ppg). Sophomore guard Tweety Carter has a great name and averages 9.6 per game. Aaron Bruce rounds out the scoring as a fifth guard at 8.7 points per game, and he is the one player who might be familiar to Purdue fans. He was a much bigger cog in the Bear offense as a freshman in 2004-05, averaging 18.2 per game. In the infamous Brandon McKnight game he had 17 points, including the game winning free throw as a result of McKnight's gaffe.

Personally, I think you have to feel good for a guy like Bruce. He has stuck around this program, seen his playing time diminish, and even made it through the "half death penalty" season of his sophomore year. This entire program has benefitted from leaders like him, and it is a testament to their character that they are now in the NCAA Tournament just two years removed from a season where they were only allowed to play conference games.

While those six players round out the main rotation, Josh Lomers and Mark Shepherd come in to play some spot duty and offer the others a break. Mamadou Diene and Delbert Simpson will also likely see some minutes. Diene and Lomers are both 7-footers that could present some match-up problems with their size, but combined they only average about 7 points and 5 rebounds per game. This means there is not too much of an inside game. Baylor is a guard-heavy lineup, and as a result they rely heavily on their 3-point shooting. All five of the main guards have attempted over 110 3-pointers each this season, with each hitting at least 33% from long range. Only Rogers of the main six players is an inside presence, but he still shoots about 50% from the field. At 6'9" and 240 he could be a problem for Calasan and Johnson in the paint.

Baylor is also a team we must be wary about fouling. We have committed way too many fouls this season. While it can be a plus against a team like Illinois that struggles from the line, it is a big minus against Baylor. The Bears hit nearly 75% of their free throws as a team, and all six of their main players are at or above that 75% mark. This is a team that loves to shoot and shoots the ball very well from wherever they are on the floor. As a team they are 38% from 3-point land, and they shoot more than 22 of those per game. One in every three shots they throw up is a triple, so we must have a better defensive performance than against Illinois.

What not to fear from Baylor:

As much as Baylor loves to shoot, their defense is not nearly as frustrating as Missouri's. That ends their comparison with the Tigers. Baylor can fill up the basket, but they need to because they give up almost as many points as they score. In Big 12 play they held only two teams under 70 points in 17 games, so we should be able to score some points against them. Since we have a very versatile offense we will need continuous balance while finding the hot hand as we have done all season long. Many teams have had little trouble cracking 80 against these guys, and twice they have surrendered more than 100 points.

Baylor is not a particularly strong rebounding team at just 37.4 per game. If we can dictate our tempo with patient offense and grinding defense we should be able to frustrate them. This will be the key to any long tournament run for us. Both Baylor and our likely second-round opponent in Xavier are guard-oriented teams that rely heavily on their play from the perimeter. If we can stymie these teams with our stifling defense of old we stand a very good chance of winning. Baylor turns the ball over almost 13 times a game. If we can turn up the pressure and cause even more turnovers that will help our cause more.

We are also in the rare situation of having experience. Though we are dominated by freshmen and sophomores, we do have players like Crump, Kramer, Green, and Grant that have been here before and know what the atmosphere of the NCAA Tournament is like. The same is true for coach Painter. Since Baylor hasn't been here in 20 years everyone from the coaching staff on down is getting its first taste of tournament play. This is key since both teams have struggled somewhat down the stretch. Baylor has struggled more with their backslide from lock to bubble on Selection Sunday, while we only lost a game to a rival on their floor and two overtime contests to teams fighting to save their seasons. I like how that benefits us.

General Outlook:

I really like our chances in this game if our defense comes to play. Other than Rogers, who can run wild in the post, Baylor does not really have a proven post presence. Even their 7-footers in Diene and Lomers haven't played in every game. If they were to have big games it would be a departure from the norm for Baylor. We must come ready to play on the perimeter as they have a five guard attack that is not afraid to shoot. If their threes are falling they are dangerous. If they are not we should be able to win.

Conversely, we need to be able to hit our shots as well. I am very concerned that we just let Illinois shoot better than 60% against us. Baylor has multiple Demetri McCamey types, so another poor defensive performance will mean a quick exit from the tournament. We have not lost a first round tournament game since 1992. This tells me that we do come ready to play each year and we will need to be so more this year than ever because of their guards.

The key will be playing the game at our pace. We have a great chance to really get Calasan and Johnson involved in the paint, so why not play them together since Baylor doesn't have much size? If they then counter with their 7-footers we can go with our smaller lineup. We must cut back on our fouls as well. This has been a big problem this season, so it is time for us to play a little bit smarter. We can't afford to send Baylor to the line like we did with Illinois.

As I said previously; I like our chances if our defense comes to play and sets the tone early. If we play our style of basketball by creating turnovers and forcing them into bad shots we can certainly create plenty of offense from the defense. Baylor hasn't really played a shred of defense all season, so we should only be worried if our shots don't start to fall. We just need to be patient, get good looks, and try to avoid our tendency to settle for threes if they aren't falling. We also need to crash the boards and generate some offensive rebounds. This is a game we should be able to win, and if we do it means we can piss off Digger Phelps for two more days. Purdue 75, Baylor 67
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Old 03-19-2008, 07:30 AM
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Good analysis, but we are going to score more than 67.
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Old 03-19-2008, 07:46 AM
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People seem to overlook the fact that we played decent defense in the non-conference. The quality of offense in the Big 12 is so superior to the Big 10, it's ridiculous. I'm looking for an inspired defensive performance from our Bears. I think we need to hold them to 65 in order to win.
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:07 AM
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what is purdue's average ppg? i thought they had too slow of a tempo to reach 75
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:23 AM
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These guys obviously don't know our team. "As I said previously; I like our chances if our defense comes to play and sets the tone early. If we play our style of basketball by creating turnovers and forcing them into bad shots we can certainly create plenty of offense from the defense."
1. We take bad shots even if you don't play the most awesomely tough defense ever devised by a human.
2. If we can't penetrate and start to turn the ball over then Dunn and Carter will just move their jumpshots 5-10 feet out.

"Baylor hasn't really played a shred of defense all season"
OK, this guy might have seen us play. I was starting to doubt it from his earlier analysis.

"We also need to crash the boards and generate some offensive rebounds."
Good luck doing that with two guys. You had better be sending back two early and another heading that way or you will never pick up all of our three threats for open threes. When you start to play the most awesomely tough defense ever devised by a human in the transition without inside help, then CJ and Henry are going to attack the rim. Then . . .

"We can't afford to send Baylor to the line like we did with Illinois."
Surrender the open three in transition to maintain offensive rebounds (especially with long rebounds with Purdue taking long 2s and 3s) or try to face guard our guards (with or without numbers) in the transition racking up the fouls.

Let's face it. These Purdue posters for the most part come from a state that teaches good fundamental basketball in nursery school. They don't understand that Scott Drew must have been dropped on his head in that same nursery as Drew has tattooed greenlights on the inside of the eyelids of our five guards to shoot as soon as they step on the court. Heck a couple of them have the greenlight to shoot from the bench. Three on two break - we may shoot a three. Deep threes - we love them and might even use Matt Painter as screen if he doesn't keep his a$$ off the court in the coaches box. The way our guards like to shoot - it is amazing that they ever learned to dribble. Plenty of sarcasm in this Purdue fans mixed in with a little honest analysis.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:11 AM
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Honestly, I am a little worried if we have the patience to play in a slower tempo game. There's a reason Big Ten teams typically make it out of the first few rounds of the tournament, and that's because they play great defense. Purdue will try to slow the tempo, a la A&M in Waco, minus the bangers inside, so we have to be smart and take better shots than we are wont to do so often. I would really like to see us do more inside-outside 3 ptrs, rather than threes off the break or walk-up threes, but if Lace is on like in the Tech game, it won't matter. I would also like to see our guards attack the rim early on to get some easy buckets. Jerrells and Dugat can get to the rim whenever they want, so it always puzzles me when we settle for contested threes.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:35 AM
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"a la A&M in Waco" involved a tightly called perimeter game to aid that slower tempo. Calling the perimeter tightly for fouls hurts Purdue maybe even more than us. It means we will be able to move the ball easier and penetrate.

Remember they sometimes are cold and have trouble scoring so they need the defense to keep our points down. They need physical perimeter play to do that.
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That was a completely fair analysis.

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Old 03-19-2008, 10:19 AM
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"a la A&M in Waco" involved a tightly called perimeter game to aid that slower tempo. Calling the perimeter tightly for fouls hurts Purdue maybe even more than us. It means we will be able to move the ball easier and penetrate.

Remember they sometimes are cold and have trouble scoring so they need the defense to keep our points down. They need physical perimeter play to do that.
True, but I am also not sold on our ability to not commit stupid fouls. Rogers has been much better as of late, but a tightly called game means we get in foul trouble early.
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:35 AM
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Good fair analysis - Pudue fans might be the anti-aggy - and I appreciate the Digger jab even if it comes at our expense.
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Bump. See if I can get some more neg rep from BU fans without a sense of humor.

ESPNews had the Purdue players on a few minutes ago. I think it was Hummel who said "They will shoot from anywhere. We need to be ready to guard them as soon as they get off the bus."

Gottlieb went into detail that the Purdue players might not be ready for the officiating. He said that the first round games are usually called tight especially since they are scored for their officiating to see if they advance. Gottlieb also said that the officiating crew won't come for the Big 10 or Big 12, so it could come from the ACC or Pac 10 which are more finesse leagues. So they will be hampered on their physical defense. That the Purdue players feel that many haven't seen their style of defense but that Gottlieb feels that the Big 10 is the least athletic of the Big 6 conferences. That Purdue hasn't seen guards as athletic as Dugat and Jerrells.
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Let's face it. These Purdue fans for the most part come from a state that teaches good fundamental basketball in nursery school. They don't understand that Scott Drew must have been dropped on his head in that same nursery as Drew has tattooed greenlights on the inside of the eyelids of our five guards to shoot as soon as they step on the court. Heck a couple of them have the greenlight to shoot from the bench. Three on two break - we may shoot a three. Deep threes - we love them and might even use Matt Painter as screen if he doesn't keep his a$$ off the court in the coaches box. The way our guards like to shoot - it is amazing that they ever learned to dribble.
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I think the refs are going to call this tight. I really think that Purdue doesn't understand that making our guys start farther out isn't that big of a deal. Imagine how many ankles Jerrells is going to break if someone faceguards him? If not that strong swim move of CJ's will get a work-out.
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It sounds like their offense is probably similar to what we saw from CU, but they may actually have people capable of hitting the open shot. We don't play well against teams that slow down the tempo. Not sure if this is the best matchup for us.
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I am looking forward to it. Coach Drew's pregame speech should include an instruction to Jerrells and Dugat of "Take the ball to the dang rack!" Purdue's defense is susceptible to the dribble drive and it will be there all day long.
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Gottlieb's good point is that the refs probably will not allow them to play physical on the perimeter. The Big Ten does that. It would be nice to get one of their starters rung up with two fouls in the first few minutes.
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Especially if it's Hummel or Moore.
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A basketball analysis from someone who obviously eats, sleeps and breaths basketball. Makes you wonder what he does the rest of the year. It also made me wonder if we would try to dust off what ever that was that we played against Tech the first time with our big guys having an unusually productive game.
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A basketball analysis from someone who obviously eats, sleeps and breaths basketball. Makes you wonder what he does the rest of the year. It also made me wonder if we would try to dust off what ever that was that we played against Tech the first time with our big guys having an unusually productive game.
Well, check out the state in which Purdue is located, and you'll have your explanation. That state's love of the game is not reserved for the ingrate Hoosier fans exclusively.

Thanks for posting that, Believer! That was a truly enjoyable read, not just from an informational standpoint but from anecdotal and styling points, as well. Best part? He didn't take any shots at anyone who might have disagreed with him over the past 43 years!

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Our players don't have any experience in the tournament but our coaches have plenty. Not here but at other places.

Other than that, I think he did a better than average job.
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