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04-01-12, 05:43 PM #2461
From South Carolina's pro day, three kids we might be interested in:
DE/OLB Melvin Ingram (94)
Ingram (6-1½, 265) nailed the combine and looked just as good during his pro day. His arm length came in at just 29.7 inches -- an inch-and-a-half shorter than at the combine, which is odd and requires some checking -- and that's well below the four-year averages for ends and outside linebackers at the combine, but his workout was good enough to ease concerns about his ability to lock out and shed blockers.
Ingram showed quick, smooth feet during drills; was balanced and exploded out of cuts; and changed directions easily for his size. He picked up his feet well during bag work, and I was most impressed with how he held up in space. He moved smoothly and opened his hips well when changing directions, and Ingram's agility and body control are excellent for a player with his compact frame. He tracked the ball nicely in coverage drills, transitioning well out of breaks and showing solid ball skills and the ability to turn into a runner once he caught the ball.
Ingram's hands are quick and violent, and he ran tight loops during pass-rush drills. He is a great fit at outside linebacker for a 3-4 team and could contribute in a 4-3 at end or perhaps even at strongside linebacker. All of this lines up with the disruptive player we see on film, and Ingram has definitely cemented himself in the middle of the first round
CB Stephon Gilmore (91)
He's one of the fastest-rising prospects in recent weeks, and Gilmore (6-0⅝, 189) showed good movement skills during drills. He has quick feet and explodes pretty well out of breaks, and while Gilmore is a little tight when opening his hips he stayed balanced and was always under control.
Gilmore made quick transitions out of his backpedal, showing the ability to gather himself before breaking forward, and his ball skills are steady. He did a good job locating the ball out of breaks, getting his hands up and securing the pass, and at one point he looked good high-pointing a ball thrown above his shoulders. Gilmore is a bit tight on tape, but he is an aggressive tackler in run support, and when you throw in his size, instincts and solid combine workout Gilmore is catapulting himself into the late-first round.
S Antonio Allen (78)
Allen (6-1⅛, 206) is a little high-cut in his backpedal and showed some tightness during drills, and he did not display the natural ball skills we see on film. And while his 40 time was in the low 4.6s, Allen does not appear to have a second gear to catch up to the ball, and you have to wonder about his overall range.
He's a more natural mover when he can gather at the top of his pedal and break forward, as opposed to flipping his hips and running with receivers, so Allen fits more as an in-the-box-type safety who can use his instincts and physical style to his advantage near the line of scrimmage. He can also contribute on special teams, and he did nothing to hurt himself during his pro day. Allen remains in the late-third-to-early-fourth round area.
04-01-12, 05:51 PM #2462
There is one more QB that might enter the 1st round picture, the 6'7 ASU QB Brock Osweiler. He's probably 2nd round talent but QB's usually end up taken higher than talent level. Assuming Tannehill does go before 14, a few teams might be looking to trade up for him.
Great intangibles, originally committed to Gonzaga as a Sophomore in basketball before changing his mind to play football.
04-01-12, 06:09 PM #2463
Also, if they decide not to re-sign McBriar, we will need a punter. Drew Butler from Georgia looks to be the top guy. 44.5 in 2010 and 44.2 in 2011. He actually kicked farther in 2009 as a Sophomore at 48.1, but started working on placement, underkicking so his coverage team could contain the return.
His pop Kevin Butler was a kicker in the NFL for 13 years. Drew's an excellent student. Earned undergraduate degree in Telecommunications graduating Cum Laude.
How about that extra 4th rounder we picked up?
04-01-12, 06:11 PM #2464
1.14, 2.13, 3.18, 4.18, 4.40, 5.17, 6.16, 7.15
Last edited by Assassin; 04-01-12 at 06:31 PM.
04-01-12, 08:19 PM #2465
Brandon Carr on Victor Cruz:
"I want to use all my body,” Carr said. “I'm six-foot, 200 pounds. I know he's got to run through me to get wherever he's running, so I'm going to be patient at the line. All that salsa dancing, that's fine, but you've got to come through me.
“I don't plan on seeing no dancing."
04-01-12, 08:20 PM #2466
04-01-12, 08:39 PM #2467
I would probably take a flyer on him around the 4th round. Most of the services say he's more like a 2nd rounder.
04-01-12, 10:54 PM #2468
Haven't seen that much of him but he looks awkward to me. He's not going to be a good fit on most teams in this age of NFL football. He would have to be in the right place.
I would take Case Keenum over him any day of the week...two ends of the QB height spectrum.
04-02-12, 12:10 AM #2469
How about Kirk Cousins? He's been getting some pretty heavy press lately.
04-03-12, 08:43 AM #2470
Note on how much each NFC East team has left under the cap:
Dallas Cowboys: $2,164,189
The Cowboys did their free-agency work early, and I wouldn't expect too much more. This figure would be $7,164,189 if not for the penalties the league imposed for the way the Cowboys spent in the uncapped 2010 season. But I still don't think they'd have plunked down big dollars to compete with Jacksonville to sign receiver Laurent Robinson. They'll bargain-hunt for their No. 3 wide receiver again, as they did last year when they turned up Robinson. And while there may be another signing or two -- bargain receiver, second tight end, veteran safety -- the Cowboys' attention right now is on the draft.
New York Giants: $3,431,050
This gives the Giants a little bit of room to address their needs at linebacker, offensive line and running back, though they don't seem in much of a hurry to do any of those things. Up tight against the cap for the second year in a row, the Giants continue to maintain their prudent, patient approach to the offseason. They'll probably bring back linebacker Jonathan Goff and add a veteran running back, but I think they address their tackle need at some point in the draft, if not in the first round.
Philadelphia Eagles: $16,255,888
Lots of money, and there's plenty the Eagles can do with it, starting with signing a free-agent tackle to replace the injured Jason Peters and working out a new deal for running back LeSean McCoy. The Eagles also are in the market for a veteran safety, a veteran running back and some more linebacker help. But they're not spending like sailors this offseason, mainly because they did last year and most of those same guys are still on the team.
Washington Redskins: $7,681,338
Yeah, and think about it. It'd be $25,681,338 if not for their salary-cap penalty. This figure still gives the Redskins plenty of room, if they want, to sign linebacker London Fletcher, running back Tim Hightower and a new right tackle. But especially in Fletcher's case, they need to get more creative than they expected they would have to be. Fletcher turns 37 this year and isn't going to get the kind of long-term deal that allows the team to spread out the cap hit over a period of years. The Redskins have been active in free agency and can continue to address their needs, but the penalty has forced them to adjust the way they're going about their spending.
04-03-12, 09:52 AM #2471
Broadus seems pretty impressed with Upshaw:
Draft preview series: Alabama DE/OLB Courtney Upshaw
By Bryan Broaddus and Tim MacMahon
The 17th installment of our draft preview series looks at Alabama DE/OLB Courtney Upshaw.
Scouts Inc. ranks: No. 3 defensive end, No. 17 overall
Bio: First-team All-SEC and All-American was a finalist for the Lombardi Award and Butkus Award as a senior. Had 9.5 sacks, 11 quarterback hurries, 18 tackles for losses, an interception he returned 45 yards for a touchdown and two forced fumbles for the nation’s top-ranked total, rushing and scoring defense. Had seven sacks and 14.5 tackles for losses as a junior
Alabama DE/OLB Courtney Upshaw plays with serious power and was a finalist for the Lombardi Award and Butkus Award as a senior.
Size: 6-foot-1 5/8, 272 pounds
40-yard dash: 4.81 seconds
Did not work out at scouting combine
Broaddus Breakdown (viewed Penn State, Arkansas, Auburn and LSU games): Played at Alabama as the open- or weak-side defensive end with his hand on the ground. Will most likely play as a strong-side linebacker in the NFL in a 3-4 defense. … The first thing you notice on film is how much power he plays with at the point of attack. The strength level is not the problem here. He really does a much better job than Melvin Ingram at using his hands and controlling the blockers. … Can split double-teams with his upper-body strength. Can easily take on double-teams and not be moved off the spot. … You see him walk blockers back into the quarterback with his bull rush in passing situations. … Does a really nice job of holding the point of attack in the running game. Is a hard guy to run at or to try and get around the corner on, but he did have one play where Auburn was able to get the ball on the edge and around the corner. That was the only one in four games. … Outstanding job of finding the football and playing with awareness. You see him play off the block and slide down inside when he sees the ball heading in that direction. Plays with an explosive burst and can close quickly. … Can run down plays from the back side, doesn’t give up on plays like others I have observed in this draft. Always trying to get to the ball. Is a downhill, attacking player. … Is a load to deal with when he is making a tackle. Has a great deal of natural power and snap when making a tackle. Ball carriers are stopped in their tracks when he delivers a blow. … Thought he did a nice job of playing the low block with his hands. Has to deal with this quite a bit because blockers do not want to take him on high. Really good technique here. … Will use an arm-over move to free himself, but will need to develop more pass rush moves because he can’t be a one-trick pony in this league when dealing with offensive tackles. Like the way he will work up the field, but he doesn’t have that elite pass rush speed to get the corner. His balance of quickness and power help him to do his job. You will see him win pass rush battles with his power, but again, he will need to learn some other techniques. … There are scouts that I talk to that aren’t sure if there is really a position for Upshaw, but what I saw with my own eyes is an outstanding football player. He, like Ingram, will have to be taught how to drop in coverage. Right now, it isn’t good enough, but he does show awareness and the ability to find the ball. … The best way to describe Upshaw is he is a fall player and not a spring one. Film shows he plays football very well in the fall, and that is all I care about.
04-03-12, 10:44 AM #2472
From Bloggin'Da Boys:
Cowboys Interested In Dontari Poe The Most? According To Source 'Tis True
Dallas' front office might have their eye on a Tiger.
In a News And Notes story filed for DraftInsider.net, Sports Illustrated's Tony Pauline has offered some insight into the Cowboys draft plans. Well, at least their draft plans for the time being. Apparently, the team was extra impressed (as most of the world was) with workout warrior Dontari Poe of Memphis and has it's eye on the Tiger for the 14th pick in the amateur draft.
- On the Monday of the combine, when we reported the Dallas Cowboys were the favorites to sign free agent cornerback Brandon Carr, we also posted the team was looking heavily at offensive lineman Cordy Glenn. Several sources have told us in recent weeks the franchise has shifted its focus to the defensive line and as of today Memphis defensive tackle Dontari Poe is the apple of their eyes.
The Cordy Glenn item makes sense if you connect the dots between Jerry Jones talking about not taking a guard at 14 and also trading down, as most mocks see Glenn as the second best offensive guard behind Stanford's David DeCastro. Glenn is normally projected 8-14 slots behind DeCastro.
When Dontari Poe performed at the Scouting Combine, he quickly endeared himself to many fans, and apparently front office types, who didn't previously have him on their radar. The mountain of a man stands 6'4", 346 lbs, but moves with cat-like agility. With all that girth, he ran a 4.86 40 yard dash and had a 1.68 10-yard split; a time comparable to edge rushers and linebackers. He bench pressed 225 lbs 44 times (best in group) and had a 9'9" broad jump.
To say he was impressive would be an understatement of the year. Dallas fans quickly began salivating over the idea of a Lissemore-Poe-Ratliff defensive line.
Follow the jump for more, and to see why we might want to listen to Pauline's predictions.
Unfortunately, all of the attention brought to light a couple of possibly nasty warts about Poe's motor and effort not being where it was supposed to be; including from his coach.
"Dontari is a powerful, powerful you man who has the potential to be the best defensive lineman I ever coached," offered Memphis defensive line coach Mike DuBose, who saw some pretty good DLs in his days as head coach at Alabama, where he won an SEC championship in 1999. DuBose says Poe often over-thinks what he is doing rather than just doing it and needs to just rely on his abilities more.
-The Sports Xchange via NFLDraftScout.com
Opposing coaches, even in noting his lack of effort, said it did markedly improve this past season, and even still he was never on the ground; indicating great balance to go along with his athleticism.
Following those news cycles, our own Coty Saxman did a wonderful piece comparing Poe's pre-draft measurables with Haloti Ngata and Paul Soliai; concluding that he might not be the line penetrator being envisioned by fans.
Related: Cowboys Draft Prospects: Would They Regret Drafting Dontari Poe?
During the NFL Scouting Combine, when and where there is usually a flurry of under-the-table activity between teams and agents of available talent, there seemed to be a dearth this year. About the only tangible nugget of information that leaked out that turned into a truism was a nugget that came from Sports Illustrated's Tony Pauline.
After word had leaked from unknown sources that Dallas was interested in Carr if he hit the open market (KC could have franchised him) Pauline predicted that the Cowboys and free agent cornerback Carr had googly eyes for each other and would ink a deal as soon as possible. Sure enough, Carr's first and only visit was with Dallas and he signed on the dotted line.
Now, whether Pauline's contacts were within Dallas' Valley Ranch or Carr's agents office we don't know. However, he did call the mutual interest first. Because of that, I'm inclined to put a little more weight behind his proclamations.
04-03-12, 11:36 AM #2473
Here are a few scenarios for a tradeback for Dallas.
Cincinnati 17 +83 (1125) for Dallas 14 + 186 (1118)
San Diego 18 + 78 (1100) for Dallas 14 (1110)
Third and a Fifth Rounder:
Chicago 19 +79 + 150 (1101.4) for Dallas 14 (1110)
Third and a Fourth Rounder:
Tennessee 20 + 82 + 115 + 227 (1110.4) for Dallas 14 + 222 (1103.6)
Cleveland 22 + 67 + 118 + 211 (1101) for Dallas 14 (1100)
Cincinnati 21 + 53 (1170) for Dallas 14 + 113 (1168)
Detroit 23 + 54 (1120) for Dallas 14+ 186 (1118)
Pittsburgh 24 + 56 + 159 (1108.8) for Dallas 14 + 222 (1103.6)
04-03-12, 11:46 AM #2474
BTW - I really think the tradeback with Cincy would be perfect. And then go for Don'ta Hightower, the OLB from Bama. CB Kirkpatrick may also be pushed back to this area.
04-03-12, 06:57 PM #2475
Update on various Mock drafts:
Drafttek.com, 4/3/2012: Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
When all things are equal, go BIG! Normally, a smart idea in drafting both football & basketball players; however, in this case, not all things are equal. There is probably a 25% chance the Cowboys trade up, 10% chance they stay at 14, and 65% chance they trade down . . . nevertheless, at #14 the 2nd best CB in this year's draft class is good value, especially when CB Jenkins starts the "mo money" chant in the last year of his rookie contract!
Ryan van Bibber, SBNation, 4/2/2012: Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
Dallas' defense disappointed everyone last year, it may have even cost Rob Ryan a shot at a head coaching job. Holes in the secondary were obvious, but the Cowboys also need an impact player at defensive end. Brockers is one option for the Cowboys, who might be inclined to trade out of this pick.
Bucky Brooks, NFL.com, 4/2/2012: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
The Cowboys added a big-time cornerback in Brandon Carr during free agency, but that won't preclude the team from taking another cover man in the draft. Kirkpatrick possesses the athleticism and length to match up with the elite receivers in the NFC, and his toughness on the edge will improve the unit's performance against the run and pass.
Russ Lande, Sporting News, 4/2/2012: Michael Brockers, DT, LSU
Brockers is great fit as a power defensive end in the Cowboys' 3-4 scheme and would help DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer pressure the quarterback.
Rob Rang, NFLdraftscout.com, 4/2/2012: Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
The Cowboys awarded free agent Brandon Carr a $50 million contract in free agency but with depth a concern in a division featuring Eli Manning, Michael Vick and soon-to-be Redskins QB Robert Griffin III, cornerback remains a key area of need. Gilmore has the size, athleticism and physicality to be a standout in Rob Ryan's aggressive scheme.
Dane Brugler, NFLdraftscout.com, 4/2/2012: David DeCastro, OG, Stanford
The Cowboys added a pair of guards in free agency (Nate Livings, Mackenzy Bernadeau), but need to continue and add depth on the interior of the offensive line. DeCastro isn't a flashy, household name, but the smash-mouth blocker might be the best guard prospect to enter the league in the past decade. Despite starting all 39 games in his collegiate career at right guard, NFL teams believe he can also be just as effective at left guard or center.
Sideline Scouting, 4/2/2012: Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State
Cowboys fans would be beyond upset at the thought of DeCastro being sniped from them by the Cardinals, but landing Fletcher Cox would be a nice consolation prize. Marcus Spears ranked among the worst 3-4 defensive ends in the league last year according to Pro Football Focus and Cox would fit nicely next to nose tackle Jay Ratliff. Cox lined up as a 4-3 defensive tackle in college, but his best fit is as a 5-technique in a three-man front. The Cowboys addressed their secondary with the signing of Brandon Carr but could look to Alabama safety Mark Barron, but Cox is a better value pick here.
04-03-12, 07:06 PM #2476
I like the center, Konz, mid 20s or so. Plug him right in. One problem solved.
04-03-12, 08:21 PM #2477
04-03-12, 08:25 PM #2478
BTW - keep an eye out for the WVU LB, Bruce Irvin. 6'3, 245, OLB. 4.5 40. A little raw, but has the physical tools. Probable second rounder.
04-03-12, 08:44 PM #2479
New Cowboy OL coach Bill Calahan was at Memphis U scouting OG/OT Ronald Leary today. 6'3, 315. Also Cowboys looking at Ryan Broyles, the Okie WR. A bit banged up as a Sr but had an incredible Jr year, 131 catches for 1,622.
04-04-12, 11:09 AM #2480
Here's the five round draft for the Cowboys from Walterfootball:
14. Dallas Cowboys: Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina
It wouldn't be surprising if Coples falls in the draft. Walt said it best in his 2012 mock: "A team like the Cowboys could give him a chance. He's a natural fit as a 3-4 defensive end, and this is an area that Dallas needs to upgrade. If Coples puts in the effort, he and DeMarcus Ware will be a very dangerous pass-rushing duo."
The 6-foot-6, 284-pounder is the prototypical defensive end for a 4-3 defense due to his combination of size, speed and athleticism. He also played defensive end in a 3-4 set at times last season. Coples showed off his elite skill set with a strong week at the Senior Bowl. He also performed well at the Combine with a 4.72 40-yard dash and a 10-yard split of 1.63.
Coples was double-teamed a lot in 2011, yet still managed to get pressure on the quarterback. He showed the ability to defend the run well, especially versus Georgia Tech. Against Clemson, Coples had a sack-fumble plus another sack that was negated by a penalty. On that play, he bull rushed through a guard. Coples also is a dangerous rusher when lining up on the inside. As a senior, he totaled 55 tackles with 15 tackles for a loss, 7.5 sacks, three forced fumbles and a plethora of quarterback hurries.
At the Senior Bowl, Coples was dominant in the one-on-one pass-rushing drills and showed that he can make offenses pay when they single block him. Coples took complete advantage of Robert Quinn being suspended in 2010 with a breakout season. After producing five sacks as a sophmore in 2009, Coples doubled his sack total as a junior. He also contributed 15.5 tackles for a loss, 59 tackles and two forced fumbles.
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