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    NBA Draft Patterns (Team & Conf stats) Baylor on the rise...

    For those of you who like seeing historical stats about college basketball - Norlander from CBSSports put together some very good info in one article. A couple years ago this would have been boring info for most Baylor Fans unfortunately - now it's very relevant. Kansas and Texas have put out 60% of the Big 12 NBA Draft picks over the past 10 years. Even though the Big 12 is #5 on the list of conferences.

    Lunardi had an article last year showing the Big 12 has had the greatest overall success at sending teams to the NCAA tourney so I think this speaks volumes to the overall coaching of the Big 12 that the NBA Talent is #5 but we're the best overall conference - he also takes a shot at Rick Barnes which I think we all have talked about is very deserving. We've had several threads talking about he doesn't get scrutinized like Drew does for his overall talent and lack of NCAA runs - Texas has no excuse anymore w/ data like this.

    http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...he-past-decade

    College basketball's blue bloods provide the bulk of the NBA's talent, Matt Norlander finds, but trends often change. Over the past 10 years, schools like Baylor and Indiana have been dormant, but talent there is on the rise.

    A few notes about what I discovered as I began with last year's draft and worked my way back to 2002.

    -- The Big Ten was behind from the get-go. It didn't crack into the double-digit-draftee column until 2008.

    -- For all the great league play, memorable tournament runs and overall enjoyable hoops the league has put out, the Missouri Valley machine has Wonka'd out just three draft picks. I was genuinely stunned to find that out, and it has been the case since 1999. Doug McDermott is set to become the first Valley player drafted since Bradley's Patrick O'Bryant was taken ninth in 2006 by Golden State.

    -- Another shockingly low conference output came from the MAC, which has just two. It has been draftless since '03.

    -- Realignment can give us different data on which schools/leagues boast the most drafted. To make things easier, I simply went with whatever league a school is a part of as of this very day, which means I counted Missouri as Big 12, so that should equally tick off the Tigers and Jayhawks fans. The fiscal year begins July 1, and that's when Missouri, Texas A&M and West Virginia make their official, earnest transitions. But with other schools, like Utah or Colorado, I counted those programs' draft selections toward the conference they're currently part of. Fair? Not entirely. Don't question my methods.

    OK, so let's look at the teams with the most NBA talent produced since 2002. I think the chart is mildly surprising. If I told you to pick the top three teams, I think it might take you eight or nine guesses before you arrived at Kansas and UCLA. Also, this does nothing but hurt Rick Barnes, right? The man has recruited more than a roster's worth of pros to Austin in a decade and has one Final Four to show for it.

    The totality of teams with 10 or more draft selections in 10 years' time:

    https://docs.google.com/a/cbsinteractive.com/spreadsheet/oimg?key=0AoTFI4_weBv0dGg1dFY5emVTa3BTTE0yOWdpcXQy SlE&oid=3&zx=igiuxy3ygnk4



    Now let's see which programs outside the cushy surroundings of the power leagues have taken in and regurgitated out. The leader is no surprise, but some of the schools behind John Calipari's former program are a bit of an eye-opener. All schools charted here are the only ones with three draft picks or more outside the BCS leagues.

    https://docs.google.com/a/cbsinteractive.com/spreadsheet/oimg?key=0AoTFI4_weBv0dGg1dFY5emVTa3BTTE0yOWdpcXQy SlE&oid=5&zx=9y9vlhlf6ivr



    Next we have the breakdown on the overall pool of college players drafted, and which conferences they came from. Twenty-five leagues have sent at least one guy to the pros in the past decade. The ones that haven't produced an NBAer on draft night: the SWAC, the Ivy League, America East, Southland, Big South, Atlantic Sun and the Patriot.

    If you're curious about which of those leagues has gone the longest without having a draft selection, it's the Big South. It was founded in '83 and has never sent a feller to the Association. Also, a college hoops trivia question favorite of mine: What's the only current America East school to have a player drafted? Why, Hartford's Skinny Vin Baker, of course.

    Within the Big Six, these are the schools that have been shut out of the draft since '02:

    Oregon State
    Seton Hall
    St. John's
    Northwestern
    Nebraska
    Penn State

    And overall, this is how the BCS leagues' draftee numbers come in:

    ACC: 70
    Pac-12: 63
    Big East: 63
    SEC: 53
    Big 12: 50
    Big Ten: 34

    Yeah -- huge drop-off for the Big Ten. The difference between the B1G and the Big 12 is the same as the Big Ten's chasm between No. 7 on the list, Conference USA, which has earned 18 draft night selections in 10 years. There are three other leagues in double figures: Atlantic 10 (14), WAC (13), West Coast (11).

    https://docs.google.com/a/cbsinteractive.com/spreadsheet/oimg?key=0AoTFI4_weBv0dGg1dFY5emVTa3BTTE0yOWdpcXQy SlE&oid=2&zx=y7uvvfe3tozh



    Finally, let's run down schools whose data I found surprising. Perhaps you'll feel the same way. Or maybe not. Most of all, I'm thrilled you've stuck with me so far.

    -- Baylor has ... just one. If I do this same exercise in three years, and if Scott Drew manages to stay in Waco, I get the feeling the Bears will go from the bottom of this list to the 90th percentile.

    -- Ohio State with only seven draft picks. Before doing the research, I would've sworn it would be more than 10.

    -- UNLV: ONE DRAFT PICK. Truly stunning, and won't stay the case with Dave Rice running the show in the desert. Can you name the pick and the year? Bet you can't. Answer at the bottom.

    -- Southern California (seven) has churned out more draft picks than Michigan State (six).

    -- Boston College at five is damn impressive.

    -- Louisville at five is damn surprising. Tennessee with three also seems drastically low.

    -- Duke and UNC outpace N.C. State four times over; the Wolfpack have given the NBA just three guys worth selecting since '02. Seems perfect.

    -- Oh, stop it, State fan.

    -- Indiana leveled off at four, and Michigan has only brought out two draft picks. Now you're seeing why the Big Ten pales so harshly to the rest of the big-boy leagues.

    There's a bunch of other data I won't get into, like most-to-least per league and whatnot, but in general, yeah, the "right" schools are occupying the higher slots on the list and more space in the charts. Doesn't mean there aren't exceptions, though, and doesn't mean it's going to be this way. One thing to note here is, although programs in power at the college level tend to stay the same over time, schools go through waves of bringing in exceptional talent and getting it to the next level. Baylor's on the come, as stated above. Indiana's making its way back. USC? It's going to taper off for a few years, most likely. Same goes for a handful of ACC schools, and in fact, it's possible the ACC will give up its lead in pros produced within the 10-year cycle by 2014.

    What can't be refuted, and what's been the case for decades: more talent seeps out from the coasts than the south or the heartland. It's the inverse of football, which is a split on sport I've always found interesting.

    Answer: In 2003, with the 19th pick, Golden State took UNLV's Marcus Banks. If you guessed correctly, treat yo' self.

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    Rick Barnes lost Durant after 1 season and it probably cost him a Final Four but he does less with more talent. He couldn't make J'covan Brown a player either.
    UCLA and Uconn guys seem to litter the NBA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xiledinok View Post
    Rick Barnes lost Durant after 1 season and it probably cost him a Final Four but he does more with less talent. He couldn't make J'covan Brown a player either.
    UCLA and Uconn guys seem to litter the NBA.
    Was that a typo? In the other thread you agreed Barnes has done less w/ more talent.
    Start around post #11. I don't know anyone - including the writer of this article who would say Barnes has done More w/ Less talent.
    http://www.baylorfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=239866

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUBig12Sports View Post
    Was that a typo? In the other thread you agreed Barnes has done less w/ more talent.
    Start around post #11. I don't know anyone - including the writer of this article who would say Barnes has done More w/ Less talent.
    http://www.baylorfans.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=239866
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