FLBear5630 said:Do you have a site? I am serious, really would like to compare. Too much rhetoric. My perceptions, no data. Trying to be objective, not personal.Wangchung said:Sure. Look at border crossings and the actions each administration took. Look at democrat Covid shutdowns and reopening and how they affected economic and employment numbers. Take Covid out of the equation and Trump policies worked extremely well while Biden would have zero reopening numbers to try and take credit for and neither administration would have had reason to sign off on those democrat spending bills. Look at international diplomacy and the wars started under each administration. Choose a metric and compare with context.FLBear5630 said:So, let's look into that.Wangchung said:That's why the context of the two president's terms matters.ron.reagan said:
When using univariate analysis like mental competence you might find yourself voting for Hitler over Chuck Norris
Does anyone have real numbers on the comparison of where we really are? Not the pro-Left or pro-Right talking points, but real data.
Would love to see a comparison of the two terms over the full four years of both. Seems Trump started strong and tailed off. Biden started poorly but things seem to be getting better. Perception? Would love to see real numbers, not Biden is evil. Trump is a Fascist.
Border - Trump
Economy - Push
Trade - Biden
Military Readiness - Trump
Foreign Relations - Biden
Traditional Allies - Push (Trump wins on Israel/Middle East; Biden wins on NATO/Europe; China-Trump; India-Push and Russia-Biden)
Drugs/Law Enforcement - Trump
Tax - Trump
Domestic/Social - Biden (Sorry, I agree on Student Loans and Health Care)
Domestic/Interior - Trump
Presidential Demeanor - Push (Neither)
Supreme Court - Trump
Protection of Rights - Biden (Sorry, I get an Authoritarian desire from Trump)
Trust -Push (Neither)
As of right now, for me: Trump 6; Biden 4; Push 4 OVERALL - Too close to call...
Border - Trump
Economy - Trump
Trade - Trump
Military Readiness - Trump
Foreign Relations - Trump
Traditional Allies - Orange Man (Trump wins on Israel/Middle East; Biden loses on NATO/Europe due to his telling Putin that Russia would see a muted response from the US if Russia kept their attack on Ukraine to a minor incursion; China-Trump; India-Push and Russia-Trump, for reasons listed)
Drugs/Law Enforcement - Trump
Tax - Trump
Domestic/Social - Trump. He chose the right SC Justices that helped end Roe, saving hundreds of thousands of lives each year. He isn't afraid of cancel culture or offending the perpetually offended.
Domestic/Interior - Trump
Presidential Demeanor - Push (Neither)
Supreme Court - Trump
Protection of Rights - Neither. Trump knee jerk banned bump stocks. Biden has stated "no right is absolute" multiple times, threatened citizens with f-16s and nukes, kept the border open through legal activism and physical cutting of fencing, and more.
Trust -Push (Neither)
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?