Is Ted Cruz going down in flames?

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Whiskey Pete
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I'll vote for Cruz. Not a big fan though. Seems he spends too much time writing books and doing interviews to sell those books. At least he votes mostly correctly.

Still think he would be excellent on the Supreme Court.
Redbrickbear
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Whiskey Pete said:

I'll vote for Cruz. Not a big fan though. Seems he spends too much time writing books and doing interviews to sell those books. At least he votes mostly correctly.




He really should talked to Nancy Pelosi

You don't need to write books in Congress to get rich…you do it by insider trading.

You can spend decades in Congress on a $180,000 salary and end up with $100 million in a massive stock portfolio
Whiskey Pete
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Redbrickbear said:

Whiskey Pete said:

I'll vote for Cruz. Not a big fan though. Seems he spends too much time writing books and doing interviews to sell those books. At least he votes mostly correctly.




He really should talked to Nancy Pelosi

You don't need to write books in Congress to get rich…you do it by insider trading.

You can spend decades in Congress on a $180,000 salary and end up with $100 million in a massive stock portfolio

Ha! True. If I was smart, I should just track the Pelosi trades and copycat invest.
J.R.
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KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I sure hopes he flames out. Horrible person. Any man who would let Trumps denigrate his wife and then kiss his arse is just despicable . Have some character, you meow.



Come on JR

Not every republican is a 'horrible person'.

LOL


never said all R's are bad people. Cruz is just a meow. Would you let Trump slander the **** out of your wife and kiss his ass after. What a wimp. ZERO respect for him relative to that.
J.R.
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Whiskey Pete said:

ron.reagan said:

Whiskey Pete said:

KaiBear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I sure hopes he flames out. Horrible person. Any man who would let Trumps denigrate his wife and then kiss his arse is just despicable . Have some character, you meow.



Come on JR

Not every republican is a 'horrible person'.

LOL


IThe internet is an amazing thing. You can be anything you want to be.


I think JR is legit.

Though when he indicated 'his' bank routinely makes multi million dollar loans without their own appraisals and other aspects of due diligent I laughed out loud .


Friend of mine, about 3 years ago, purchased a $1.9M ranch in Texas. Bank gave him a $1,000,000 loan with no appraisal, no survey, no questions. Of course, he routinely runs huge amounts of money through that same bank too. He's already paid off the loan.
It becomes a lot more likely if they had access to another appraisal that just happened. But still very uncommon.

Agree it's not common, but it happens more often than some people think.
WP is actually correct. never thought I'd say that.
J.R.
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Johnny Bear said:

Doc Holliday said:

J.R. said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I sure hopes he flames out. Horrible person. Any man who would let Trumps denigrate his wife and then kiss his arse is just despicable . Have some character, you meow.



Come on JR

Not every republican is a 'horrible person'.

LOL


Never said that, my good man. Cruz is nothing more than a hack and has no values or moral compass. Eff him. As I have mentioned. I fiscally conservative and more moderate on social issues.
So instead of voting for Cruz and getting fiscal conservatism…you don't and let Democrats win and get the opposite of fiscal conservatism and pro leftist social issues?

Junior is a lib who just doesn't want to admit it (like a lot of other libs as well).
now LJ.....what is this "lib" you speak of? What exactly is a "lib". I'm not very bright, so please enlighten me.
ScottS
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I'll vote for Cruz. Not a better option in 2024. We'll see in 2030.
boognish_bear
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J.R.
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Redbrickbear said:

Whiskey Pete said:

I'll vote for Cruz. Not a big fan though. Seems he spends too much time writing books and doing interviews to sell those books. At least he votes mostly correctly.




He really should talked to Nancy Pelosi

You don't need to write books in Congress to get rich…you do it by insider trading.

You can spend decades in Congress on a $180,000 salary and end up with $100 million in a massive stock portfolio

Her husband is a big developer and made all the money, not insider trading. You pulled that out of your ass.
Whiskey Pete
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J.R. said:

Redbrickbear said:

Whiskey Pete said:

I'll vote for Cruz. Not a big fan though. Seems he spends too much time writing books and doing interviews to sell those books. At least he votes mostly correctly.




He really should talked to Nancy Pelosi

You don't need to write books in Congress to get rich…you do it by insider trading.

You can spend decades in Congress on a $180,000 salary and end up with $100 million in a massive stock portfolio

Her husband is a big developer and made all the money, not insider trading. You pulled that out of your ass.
I heard once that you pulled a gerbil out of your ass. Not surprising.
J.R.
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Whiskey Pete said:

J.R. said:

Redbrickbear said:

Whiskey Pete said:

I'll vote for Cruz. Not a big fan though. Seems he spends too much time writing books and doing interviews to sell those books. At least he votes mostly correctly.




He really should talked to Nancy Pelosi

You don't need to write books in Congress to get rich…you do it by insider trading.

You can spend decades in Congress on a $180,000 salary and end up with $100 million in a massive stock portfolio

Her husband is a big developer and made all the money, not insider trading. You pulled that out of your ass.
I heard once that you pulled a gerbil out of your ass. Not surprising.
so LP, you are saying that isn't true? Do you homework, little man.
The_barBEARian
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boognish_bear said:




It's probably AIPAC and MIC money... I thought you loved those causes?

When it comes to domestic issues Cruz is one of the best senators we have.

When it comes to foreign policy, he is a complete shill for Israel.
Oldbear83
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The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:




It's probably AIPAC and MIC money... I thought you loved those causes?

When it comes to domestic issues Cruz is one of the best senators we have.

When it comes to foreign policy, he is a complete shill for Israel.
The alternative is Hamas, are those your boys?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
The_barBEARian
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Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:




It's probably AIPAC and MIC money... I thought you loved those causes?

When it comes to domestic issues Cruz is one of the best senators we have.

When it comes to foreign policy, he is a complete shill for Israel.
The alternative is Hamas, are those your boys?

Its a little more nuanced than that.

You can choose option C, None of the Above.

I dont pick sides between the Israelis and Iranians or IDF and Hamas... let them fight their own battles with their own blood and treasure.
Oldbear83
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:




It's probably AIPAC and MIC money... I thought you loved those causes?

When it comes to domestic issues Cruz is one of the best senators we have.

When it comes to foreign policy, he is a complete shill for Israel.
The alternative is Hamas, are those your boys?

Its a little more nuanced than that.

You can choose option C, None of the Above.

I dont pick sides between the Israelis and Iranians or IDF and Hamas... let them fight their own battles with their own blood and treasure.
So October 7 has no meaning to you?

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
The_barBEARian
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Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:




It's probably AIPAC and MIC money... I thought you loved those causes?

When it comes to domestic issues Cruz is one of the best senators we have.

When it comes to foreign policy, he is a complete shill for Israel.
The alternative is Hamas, are those your boys?

Its a little more nuanced than that.

You can choose option C, None of the Above.

I dont pick sides between the Israelis and Iranians or IDF and Hamas... let them fight their own battles with their own blood and treasure.
So October 7 has no meaning to you?


Nope.

I think a lot of it was theatrics and propaganda. After all the **** the media and our government has pulled, I dont believe anything I dont see with my own eyes anymore.

What I have seen with my own eyes is the obvious loss in station of the middle class and our lower standard of living.
Oldbear83
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:




It's probably AIPAC and MIC money... I thought you loved those causes?

When it comes to domestic issues Cruz is one of the best senators we have.

When it comes to foreign policy, he is a complete shill for Israel.
The alternative is Hamas, are those your boys?

Its a little more nuanced than that.

You can choose option C, None of the Above.

I dont pick sides between the Israelis and Iranians or IDF and Hamas... let them fight their own battles with their own blood and treasure.
So October 7 has no meaning to you?


Nope.

I think a lot of it was theatrics and propaganda. After all the **** the media and our government has pulled, I dont believe anything I dont see with my own eyes anymore.
That worked so well for Poland in 1938 ...
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
The_barBEARian
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Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:




It's probably AIPAC and MIC money... I thought you loved those causes?

When it comes to domestic issues Cruz is one of the best senators we have.

When it comes to foreign policy, he is a complete shill for Israel.
The alternative is Hamas, are those your boys?

Its a little more nuanced than that.

You can choose option C, None of the Above.

I dont pick sides between the Israelis and Iranians or IDF and Hamas... let them fight their own battles with their own blood and treasure.
So October 7 has no meaning to you?


Nope.

I think a lot of it was theatrics and propaganda. After all the **** the media and our government has pulled, I dont believe anything I dont see with my own eyes anymore.
That worked so well for Poland in 1938 ...

lol ok

I said I think Islamofacism is a real threat and we need to be fighting against it.

Where I differ, is I dont think Israel is an ally bcs from what I have seen they dont act like a ally by meddling in our elections, propagandizing our public, and always coming around with their hands out.
Oldbear83
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:




It's probably AIPAC and MIC money... I thought you loved those causes?

When it comes to domestic issues Cruz is one of the best senators we have.

When it comes to foreign policy, he is a complete shill for Israel.
The alternative is Hamas, are those your boys?

Its a little more nuanced than that.

You can choose option C, None of the Above.

I dont pick sides between the Israelis and Iranians or IDF and Hamas... let them fight their own battles with their own blood and treasure.
So October 7 has no meaning to you?


Nope.

I think a lot of it was theatrics and propaganda. After all the **** the media and our government has pulled, I dont believe anything I dont see with my own eyes anymore.
That worked so well for Poland in 1938 ...

lol ok

I said I think Islamofacism is a real threat and we need to be fighting against it.

Where I differ, is I dont think Israel is an ally bcs from what I have seen they dont act like a ally by meddling in our elections, propagandizing our public, and always coming around with their hands out.
Israel's government is far from perfect, but it's the best in the region. Anything you can complain about in the Knesset, is many times worse in other ally's governments like Saudi Arabia, Egypt or Jordan.

We do have critical interests which depend on supporting Israel, especially when facing groups like Hamas.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
KaiBear
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Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:




It's probably AIPAC and MIC money... I thought you loved those causes?

When it comes to domestic issues Cruz is one of the best senators we have.

When it comes to foreign policy, he is a complete shill for Israel.
The alternative is Hamas, are those your boys?

Its a little more nuanced than that.

You can choose option C, None of the Above.

I dont pick sides between the Israelis and Iranians or IDF and Hamas... let them fight their own battles with their own blood and treasure.
So October 7 has no meaning to you?


Nope.

I think a lot of it was theatrics and propaganda. After all the **** the media and our government has pulled, I dont believe anything I dont see with my own eyes anymore.
That worked so well for Poland in 1938 ...

lol ok

I said I think Islamofacism is a real threat and we need to be fighting against it.

Where I differ, is I dont think Israel is an ally bcs from what I have seen they dont act like a ally by meddling in our elections, propagandizing our public, and always coming around with their hands out.
Israel's government is far from perfect, but it's the best in the region. Anything you can complain about in the Knesset, is many times worse in other ally's governments like Saudi Arabia, Egypt or Jordan.






Agree to a point.

But it still doesn't justify giving Israel over 20 Billion dollars.

Money that would be far better spent on our own people.
Oldbear83
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KaiBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:




It's probably AIPAC and MIC money... I thought you loved those causes?

When it comes to domestic issues Cruz is one of the best senators we have.

When it comes to foreign policy, he is a complete shill for Israel.
The alternative is Hamas, are those your boys?

Its a little more nuanced than that.

You can choose option C, None of the Above.

I dont pick sides between the Israelis and Iranians or IDF and Hamas... let them fight their own battles with their own blood and treasure.
So October 7 has no meaning to you?


Nope.

I think a lot of it was theatrics and propaganda. After all the **** the media and our government has pulled, I dont believe anything I dont see with my own eyes anymore.
That worked so well for Poland in 1938 ...

lol ok

I said I think Islamofacism is a real threat and we need to be fighting against it.

Where I differ, is I dont think Israel is an ally bcs from what I have seen they dont act like a ally by meddling in our elections, propagandizing our public, and always coming around with their hands out.
Israel's government is far from perfect, but it's the best in the region. Anything you can complain about in the Knesset, is many times worse in other ally's governments like Saudi Arabia, Egypt or Jordan.






Agree to a point.

But it still doesn't justify giving Israel over 20 Billion dollars.

Money that would be far better spent on our own people.
I would agree we need to

A) know in advance what the money is being spent on, and
B) have a long term plan, not least what the final cost in total will be.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
The_barBEARian
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Oldbear83 said:

KaiBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:




It's probably AIPAC and MIC money... I thought you loved those causes?

When it comes to domestic issues Cruz is one of the best senators we have.

When it comes to foreign policy, he is a complete shill for Israel.
The alternative is Hamas, are those your boys?

Its a little more nuanced than that.

You can choose option C, None of the Above.

I dont pick sides between the Israelis and Iranians or IDF and Hamas... let them fight their own battles with their own blood and treasure.
So October 7 has no meaning to you?


Nope.

I think a lot of it was theatrics and propaganda. After all the **** the media and our government has pulled, I dont believe anything I dont see with my own eyes anymore.
That worked so well for Poland in 1938 ...

lol ok

I said I think Islamofacism is a real threat and we need to be fighting against it.

Where I differ, is I dont think Israel is an ally bcs from what I have seen they dont act like a ally by meddling in our elections, propagandizing our public, and always coming around with their hands out.
Israel's government is far from perfect, but it's the best in the region. Anything you can complain about in the Knesset, is many times worse in other ally's governments like Saudi Arabia, Egypt or Jordan.






Agree to a point.

But it still doesn't justify giving Israel over 20 Billion dollars.

Money that would be far better spent on our own people.
I would agree we need to

A) know in advance what the money is being spent on, and
B) have a long term plan, not least what the final cost in total will be.




Now this is better.

I wish more die hard Israel supporters would start from this position.
Oldbear83
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

KaiBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

boognish_bear said:




It's probably AIPAC and MIC money... I thought you loved those causes?

When it comes to domestic issues Cruz is one of the best senators we have.

When it comes to foreign policy, he is a complete shill for Israel.
The alternative is Hamas, are those your boys?

Its a little more nuanced than that.

You can choose option C, None of the Above.

I dont pick sides between the Israelis and Iranians or IDF and Hamas... let them fight their own battles with their own blood and treasure.
So October 7 has no meaning to you?


Nope.

I think a lot of it was theatrics and propaganda. After all the **** the media and our government has pulled, I dont believe anything I dont see with my own eyes anymore.
That worked so well for Poland in 1938 ...

lol ok

I said I think Islamofacism is a real threat and we need to be fighting against it.

Where I differ, is I dont think Israel is an ally bcs from what I have seen they dont act like a ally by meddling in our elections, propagandizing our public, and always coming around with their hands out.
Israel's government is far from perfect, but it's the best in the region. Anything you can complain about in the Knesset, is many times worse in other ally's governments like Saudi Arabia, Egypt or Jordan.






Agree to a point.

But it still doesn't justify giving Israel over 20 Billion dollars.

Money that would be far better spent on our own people.
I would agree we need to

A) know in advance what the money is being spent on, and
B) have a long term plan, not least what the final cost in total will be.




Now this is better.

I wish more die hard Israel supporters would start from this position.
I have an open mind, but not so 'open' the brain falls out.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Harrison Bergeron
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J.R. said:

Redbrickbear said:

Whiskey Pete said:

I'll vote for Cruz. Not a big fan though. Seems he spends too much time writing books and doing interviews to sell those books. At least he votes mostly correctly.




He really should talked to Nancy Pelosi

You don't need to write books in Congress to get rich…you do it by insider trading.

You can spend decades in Congress on a $180,000 salary and end up with $100 million in a massive stock portfolio

Her husband is a big developer and made all the money, not insider trading. You pulled that out of your ass.
incorrect.
Harrison Bergeron
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boognish_bear said:


This is such a stupid argument like Gerrymandering, presidential vacations, etc.

Cruz hardly is alone with external income streams and out-of-state donors.

I would be fine with limiting to in-state. But let's not let the "outrage" be selective.
J.R.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

J.R. said:

Redbrickbear said:

Whiskey Pete said:

I'll vote for Cruz. Not a big fan though. Seems he spends too much time writing books and doing interviews to sell those books. At least he votes mostly correctly.




He really should talked to Nancy Pelosi

You don't need to write books in Congress to get rich…you do it by insider trading.

You can spend decades in Congress on a $180,000 salary and end up with $100 million in a massive stock portfolio

Her husband is a big developer and made all the money, not insider trading. You pulled that out of your ass.
incorrect.
Please enlighten me.
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