Man sentenced to 7 years in Jan. 6 assaults that forced an officer to retire

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Porteroso
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Porteroso said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

The building wasn't overrun by a mob. You're confusing J6 with the fascist mobs that rioted, looted, & burned multiple cities in the summer of 2020 with no justice.


I watched it, as did most of America. If overrunning Police Barricades, breaking in windows, forcing Congress to evacuate, and taking over Congress is not rioting? Keep re-writing history. No one that saw Jan 6th said that was good on that day. EVERYONE was back tracking. It was only after Bannon and his team started re-writing that it became "patriotic".

As for the other, "Historian" you should know that those are State crimes, no where near the same level as taking over the Capital.

Really? You see no difference between State/City looting and stopping the Certification of an Election? Just how much are you willing to sell out for Trump? You really think this clown is worth it???

I see a huge difference between one incident on one day with minimal violence instigated by the FBI & CIA and dozens of riots in multiple cities for months with hundreds of serious crimes including violence, looting, burglaries, tapes, arson, & murder. Also some of those buildings that were attacked were federal buildings. That is a federal crime.

The fascists ard not interested in justice when they hound everyone who was there, regardless of their role, except the Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt in cold blood and the govt jack boot thugs who instigated the "storming" of the building. It was a modern day Reichstag fire.

At the same time, they ignore dozens of far more serious crimes like those listed above, ignore the attacks on pro-life pregnancy centers (including arson & vandalism), prosecute pro-life activists for protesting mass murder, interfere in another election with bogus prosecutions of the leading candidate for president, and numerous blatantly illegal and unconstitutional actions. Their behaviors resemble those of the Gestapo & the SD, SA, etc. it's truly alarming how much they are going full Nazi on us.

Anyone who actually believes in the constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, should be very concerned about so many violations of Americans' 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment (especially due process), 6th amendment, & 8th amendment rights. America has become a banana republic under the fascists.

Every single insurrectionist knew what they were doing was wrong, they just simply wanted their guy to win.



It is truly pathetic. And before you try to mince the argument up with "yeah but black people and BLM" just remember the no matter what anyone else does, we have the rule of law here, .


1. The vast vast majority of protestors there that day were peaceful. They certainly did not know what they were doing was wrong.

And in fact those that peacefully protested that day did NOTHING wrong at all.


2. But the BLM riots proved that we don't in fact have a neutral rule of law in this country.

The dropping of charges and low ball punishments proved that certain special classes of people can basically do what they want if it's see has as being in the interests of the regime in DC

You won't even call it trespassing?
Redbrickbear
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Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

The building wasn't overrun by a mob. You're confusing J6 with the fascist mobs that rioted, looted, & burned multiple cities in the summer of 2020 with no justice.


I watched it, as did most of America. If overrunning Police Barricades, breaking in windows, forcing Congress to evacuate, and taking over Congress is not rioting? Keep re-writing history. No one that saw Jan 6th said that was good on that day. EVERYONE was back tracking. It was only after Bannon and his team started re-writing that it became "patriotic".

As for the other, "Historian" you should know that those are State crimes, no where near the same level as taking over the Capital.

Really? You see no difference between State/City looting and stopping the Certification of an Election? Just how much are you willing to sell out for Trump? You really think this clown is worth it???

I see a huge difference between one incident on one day with minimal violence instigated by the FBI & CIA and dozens of riots in multiple cities for months with hundreds of serious crimes including violence, looting, burglaries, tapes, arson, & murder. Also some of those buildings that were attacked were federal buildings. That is a federal crime.

The fascists ard not interested in justice when they hound everyone who was there, regardless of their role, except the Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt in cold blood and the govt jack boot thugs who instigated the "storming" of the building. It was a modern day Reichstag fire.

At the same time, they ignore dozens of far more serious crimes like those listed above, ignore the attacks on pro-life pregnancy centers (including arson & vandalism), prosecute pro-life activists for protesting mass murder, interfere in another election with bogus prosecutions of the leading candidate for president, and numerous blatantly illegal and unconstitutional actions. Their behaviors resemble those of the Gestapo & the SD, SA, etc. it's truly alarming how much they are going full Nazi on us.

Anyone who actually believes in the constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, should be very concerned about so many violations of Americans' 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment (especially due process), 6th amendment, & 8th amendment rights. America has become a banana republic under the fascists.

Every single insurrectionist knew what they were doing was wrong, they just simply wanted their guy to win.



It is truly pathetic. And before you try to mince the argument up with "yeah but black people and BLM" just remember the no matter what anyone else does, we have the rule of law here, .


1. The vast vast majority of protestors there that day were peaceful. They certainly did not know what they were doing was wrong.

And in fact those that peacefully protested that day did NOTHING wrong at all.


2. But the BLM riots proved that we don't in fact have a neutral rule of law in this country.

The dropping of charges and low ball punishments proved that certain special classes of people can basically do what they want if it's see has as being in the interests of the regime in DC

You won't even call it trespassing?


Not in the people's national capital building….

The citizens of this county should not be barred from the steps of the Capitol or the public rotunda and public areas of the building.
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FLBear5630
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Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

The building wasn't overrun by a mob. You're confusing J6 with the fascist mobs that rioted, looted, & burned multiple cities in the summer of 2020 with no justice.


I watched it, as did most of America. If overrunning Police Barricades, breaking in windows, forcing Congress to evacuate, and taking over Congress is not rioting? Keep re-writing history. No one that saw Jan 6th said that was good on that day. EVERYONE was back tracking. It was only after Bannon and his team started re-writing that it became "patriotic".

As for the other, "Historian" you should know that those are State crimes, no where near the same level as taking over the Capital.

Really? You see no difference between State/City looting and stopping the Certification of an Election? Just how much are you willing to sell out for Trump? You really think this clown is worth it???

I see a huge difference between one incident on one day with minimal violence instigated by the FBI & CIA and dozens of riots in multiple cities for months with hundreds of serious crimes including violence, looting, burglaries, tapes, arson, & murder. Also some of those buildings that were attacked were federal buildings. That is a federal crime.

The fascists ard not interested in justice when they hound everyone who was there, regardless of their role, except the Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt in cold blood and the govt jack boot thugs who instigated the "storming" of the building. It was a modern day Reichstag fire.

At the same time, they ignore dozens of far more serious crimes like those listed above, ignore the attacks on pro-life pregnancy centers (including arson & vandalism), prosecute pro-life activists for protesting mass murder, interfere in another election with bogus prosecutions of the leading candidate for president, and numerous blatantly illegal and unconstitutional actions. Their behaviors resemble those of the Gestapo & the SD, SA, etc. it's truly alarming how much they are going full Nazi on us.

Anyone who actually believes in the constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, should be very concerned about so many violations of Americans' 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment (especially due process), 6th amendment, & 8th amendment rights. America has become a banana republic under the fascists.

Every single insurrectionist knew what they were doing was wrong, they just simply wanted their guy to win.



It is truly pathetic. And before you try to mince the argument up with "yeah but black people and BLM" just remember the no matter what anyone else does, we have the rule of law here, .


1. The vast vast majority of protestors there that day were peaceful. They certainly did not know what they were doing was wrong.

And in fact those that peacefully protested that day did NOTHING wrong at all.


2. But the BLM riots proved that we don't in fact have a neutral rule of law in this country.

The dropping of charges and low ball punishments proved that certain special classes of people can basically do what they want if it's see has as being in the interests of the regime in DC

You won't even call it trespassing?


Not in the people's national capital building….

The citizens of this county should not be barred from the steps of the Capitol or the public rotunda and public areas of the building.


When was the last time, to use yours and Pelosi's description of the Capital, peoples house open with no restrictions? Was it ever? Also, we are not talking standing on the steps. They broke down barricades, broke windows and forced Congress to stop. Besides attack Police Officers.

Keep spinning it as some kumbaya sing along.
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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

The building wasn't overrun by a mob. You're confusing J6 with the fascist mobs that rioted, looted, & burned multiple cities in the summer of 2020 with no justice.


I watched it, as did most of America. If overrunning Police Barricades, breaking in windows, forcing Congress to evacuate, and taking over Congress is not rioting? Keep re-writing history. No one that saw Jan 6th said that was good on that day. EVERYONE was back tracking. It was only after Bannon and his team started re-writing that it became "patriotic".

As for the other, "Historian" you should know that those are State crimes, no where near the same level as taking over the Capital.

Really? You see no difference between State/City looting and stopping the Certification of an Election? Just how much are you willing to sell out for Trump? You really think this clown is worth it???

I see a huge difference between one incident on one day with minimal violence instigated by the FBI & CIA and dozens of riots in multiple cities for months with hundreds of serious crimes including violence, looting, burglaries, tapes, arson, & murder. Also some of those buildings that were attacked were federal buildings. That is a federal crime.

The fascists ard not interested in justice when they hound everyone who was there, regardless of their role, except the Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt in cold blood and the govt jack boot thugs who instigated the "storming" of the building. It was a modern day Reichstag fire.

At the same time, they ignore dozens of far more serious crimes like those listed above, ignore the attacks on pro-life pregnancy centers (including arson & vandalism), prosecute pro-life activists for protesting mass murder, interfere in another election with bogus prosecutions of the leading candidate for president, and numerous blatantly illegal and unconstitutional actions. Their behaviors resemble those of the Gestapo & the SD, SA, etc. it's truly alarming how much they are going full Nazi on us.

Anyone who actually believes in the constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, should be very concerned about so many violations of Americans' 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment (especially due process), 6th amendment, & 8th amendment rights. America has become a banana republic under the fascists.

Every single insurrectionist knew what they were doing was wrong, they just simply wanted their guy to win.



It is truly pathetic. And before you try to mince the argument up with "yeah but black people and BLM" just remember the no matter what anyone else does, we have the rule of law here, .


1. The vast vast majority of protestors there that day were peaceful. They certainly did not know what they were doing was wrong.

And in fact those that peacefully protested that day did NOTHING wrong at all.


2. But the BLM riots proved that we don't in fact have a neutral rule of law in this country.

The dropping of charges and low ball punishments proved that certain special classes of people can basically do what they want if it's see has as being in the interests of the regime in DC

You won't even call it trespassing?


Not in the people's national capital building….

The citizens of this county should not be barred from the steps of the Capitol or the public rotunda and public areas of the building.


When was the last time, to use yours and Pelosi's description of the Capital, peoples house open with no restrictions? Was it ever?


["There was a time where anybody could come walk into the building," Jane Campbell, president of the United States Historical Society, said.
But Campbell said that time was more than 70 years ago and adds laws have been on the books since 1946 controlling public access to the Capitol.]

So yes you used to be able to enter the building without restrictions.

I'm ok with some reasonable restrictions (private areas, capitol police headquarters, House or Senate floor when certain business is being conducted)

But the complete closing of the most important public building in America…along with the steps as well…is unacceptable
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There was no insurrection. It was a protest.

My statement about Nazis was an observation that the fascists currently running our government are using Nazi tactics more and more. It's a factual observation based upon what they have been doing from day one but it seems to be accelerating.

The fascists don't believe in the rule of law. They always cover up their crimes. They have been covering up for the Clinton's gif over 30 years. They have covered up Obama's crimes, especially the Russia collusion hoax (Steele dossier, etc ad nauseum). They have been covering up Biden's crimes from his mishandling of classified documents (for decades & extensively) while prosecuting Trump for something superficially similar to his foreign dealings (bribery & extortion), his mishandling of Afghanistan, his open border lies & crimes, and literally everything else. Don't forget the cover ups relating to Hunter's crimes: his laptop, his Ukraine ties, the cocaine left in the White House, etc, etc, etc.

The FBI has become thoroughly corrupted, just like it was under Clinton & Obama (possibly the Bush's too). It is now the Gestapo in the way it covers up regime crimes & hounds innocent citizens for exercising their first amendment rights.

I call them fascists because they are fascists.
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FLBear5630
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

The building wasn't overrun by a mob. You're confusing J6 with the fascist mobs that rioted, looted, & burned multiple cities in the summer of 2020 with no justice.


I watched it, as did most of America. If overrunning Police Barricades, breaking in windows, forcing Congress to evacuate, and taking over Congress is not rioting? Keep re-writing history. No one that saw Jan 6th said that was good on that day. EVERYONE was back tracking. It was only after Bannon and his team started re-writing that it became "patriotic".

As for the other, "Historian" you should know that those are State crimes, no where near the same level as taking over the Capital.

Really? You see no difference between State/City looting and stopping the Certification of an Election? Just how much are you willing to sell out for Trump? You really think this clown is worth it???

I see a huge difference between one incident on one day with minimal violence instigated by the FBI & CIA and dozens of riots in multiple cities for months with hundreds of serious crimes including violence, looting, burglaries, tapes, arson, & murder. Also some of those buildings that were attacked were federal buildings. That is a federal crime.

The fascists ard not interested in justice when they hound everyone who was there, regardless of their role, except the Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt in cold blood and the govt jack boot thugs who instigated the "storming" of the building. It was a modern day Reichstag fire.

At the same time, they ignore dozens of far more serious crimes like those listed above, ignore the attacks on pro-life pregnancy centers (including arson & vandalism), prosecute pro-life activists for protesting mass murder, interfere in another election with bogus prosecutions of the leading candidate for president, and numerous blatantly illegal and unconstitutional actions. Their behaviors resemble those of the Gestapo & the SD, SA, etc. it's truly alarming how much they are going full Nazi on us.

Anyone who actually believes in the constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, should be very concerned about so many violations of Americans' 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment (especially due process), 6th amendment, & 8th amendment rights. America has become a banana republic under the fascists.

Every single insurrectionist knew what they were doing was wrong, they just simply wanted their guy to win.



It is truly pathetic. And before you try to mince the argument up with "yeah but black people and BLM" just remember the no matter what anyone else does, we have the rule of law here, .


1. The vast vast majority of protestors there that day were peaceful. They certainly did not know what they were doing was wrong.

And in fact those that peacefully protested that day did NOTHING wrong at all.


2. But the BLM riots proved that we don't in fact have a neutral rule of law in this country.

The dropping of charges and low ball punishments proved that certain special classes of people can basically do what they want if it's see has as being in the interests of the regime in DC

You won't even call it trespassing?


Not in the people's national capital building….

The citizens of this county should not be barred from the steps of the Capitol or the public rotunda and public areas of the building.


When was the last time, to use yours and Pelosi's description of the Capital, peoples house open with no restrictions? Was it ever?


["There was a time where anybody could come walk into the building," Jane Campbell, president of the United States Historical Society, said.
But Campbell said that time was more than 70 years ago and adds laws have been on the books since 1946 controlling public access to the Capitol.]

So yes you used to be able to enter the building without restrictions.

I'm ok with some reasonable restrictions (private areas, capitol police headquarters, House or Senate floor when certain business is being conducted)

But the complete closing of the most important public building in America…along with the steps as well…is unacceptable
I don't disagree with you. I think it SHOULD be open at least the Rotunda.

The point is what the rules were on Jan 6, 2020.

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Except for those the Capitol Police invited in and opened the door for.
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historian said:

Except for those the Capitol Police invited in and opened the door for.
You keep pushing that and it has been debunked numerous times. They were inside AFTER going through Police Barricades and ignoring the signs that the building was closed for COVID. 140 Officers were injured. But, keep pushing the MAGA line.

PolitiFact | Ask PolitiFact: Did Capitol Police let mob of Trump supporters in?

Did Video Show Capitol Police Waving in Rioters on Jan. 6? | Snopes.com
historian
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You keep citing PolitiFact, a media source that has been debunked.

I've seen the photos of the people acting like tourists, not rioters or insurrectionists. And they were treated that way too.

I'm not saying other things did not also happen only that the media, fascist narrative is inaccurate. No surprise there: both groups lie all the time. They have been caught at it too many times for it to be accidental or just a slip up.
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historian said:

You keep citing PolitiFact, a media source that has been debunked.

I've seen the photos of the people acting like tourists, not rioters or insurrectionists. And they were treated that way too.

I'm not saying other things did not also happen only that the media, fascist narrative is inaccurate. No surprise there: both groups lie all the time. They have been caught at it too many times for it to be accidental or just a slip up.


Unusual, but every sentence in your post is false. Pretty amazing
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What a ridiculous post! So now you know what I've seen? I hate to tell you this, but you do have idea about such things.
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historian
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I just did a very quick & simple search to find these. If I bothered to search more I could probably find other photographic evidence of what I've been saying.



They are the most orderly rioters / insurrectionists ever: staying between the ropes! The cops are treating these people like tourists!
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Have the pro-Hams terrorists that trespassed in the Capitol been arrested and sent to Super Max?
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Hypothetical question: if the signers if the Declaration of Independence had observed what was going on in America for a couple of decades and were in DC on January 6th, what would they have done/not done differently than the patriots who went there?
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historian said:

You keep citing PolitiFact, a media source that has been debunked.

I've seen the photos of the people acting like tourists, not rioters or insurrectionists. And they were treated that way too.

I'm not saying other things did not also happen only that the media, fascist narrative is inaccurate. No surprise there: both groups lie all the time. They have been caught at it too many times for it to be accidental or just a slip up.
Photos are a snapshot in time and provide no context. A photo that shows moving a barricade was also with a text that they "shoved the cop", that is a different context.

A tactical decision at one point of a parameter to remove a barrier so that people don't get hurt or to diffuse a situation is not the same as legally saying "come in". The bottomline is that the Capital was closed, the people were told that it was off limits, some trespassed and many others were hostile/violent. 140 Officers were injured, that is not peaceful and we are talking about the seat of power for the US Government.

As for other location, same rules apply.
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

The building wasn't overrun by a mob. You're confusing J6 with the fascist mobs that rioted, looted, & burned multiple cities in the summer of 2020 with no justice.


I watched it, as did most of America. If overrunning Police Barricades, breaking in windows, forcing Congress to evacuate, and taking over Congress is not rioting? Keep re-writing history. No one that saw Jan 6th said that was good on that day. EVERYONE was back tracking. It was only after Bannon and his team started re-writing that it became "patriotic".

As for the other, "Historian" you should know that those are State crimes, no where near the same level as taking over the Capital.

Really? You see no difference between State/City looting and stopping the Certification of an Election? Just how much are you willing to sell out for Trump? You really think this clown is worth it???

I see a huge difference between one incident on one day with minimal violence instigated by the FBI & CIA and dozens of riots in multiple cities for months with hundreds of serious crimes including violence, looting, burglaries, tapes, arson, & murder. Also some of those buildings that were attacked were federal buildings. That is a federal crime.

The fascists ard not interested in justice when they hound everyone who was there, regardless of their role, except the Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt in cold blood and the govt jack boot thugs who instigated the "storming" of the building. It was a modern day Reichstag fire.

At the same time, they ignore dozens of far more serious crimes like those listed above, ignore the attacks on pro-life pregnancy centers (including arson & vandalism), prosecute pro-life activists for protesting mass murder, interfere in another election with bogus prosecutions of the leading candidate for president, and numerous blatantly illegal and unconstitutional actions. Their behaviors resemble those of the Gestapo & the SD, SA, etc. it's truly alarming how much they are going full Nazi on us.

Anyone who actually believes in the constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, should be very concerned about so many violations of Americans' 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment (especially due process), 6th amendment, & 8th amendment rights. America has become a banana republic under the fascists.


No it isn't, the one incident was an attack on our entire form of Government and the peaceful transfer of power. That is the basis of this Nation. You don't more significant than that. Take a look at the pictures of Secret Service with weapons drawn, Congress being evacuated, military clad people with fist in air on Speaker podium. Bunch of Grandad's taking selfies... You guys are so FOS. If it was DEMS you would be calling for death penalty.




J6 wasn't an attack on anything. It was a protest against fraud in an election resulting an an incompetent, illegal administration. It was far more patriotic than anything the elected criminals were doing inside. More importantly, it is still being used as a tool by the fascists to oppress Americans. The Reichstag Fire is an apt analogy.

Our fake president is currently destroying our country and the fascists are doing everything they can to undermine representative government, often committing treason in the process.







Yeah, never happened... Peaceful demonstration.

Even when you try to show violent pictures is just guys standing around not attacking anyone.

Now there were some fists flying and some violence....no one ever denied that.

But it was a 99% peaceful protest
1,000 arrests say otherwise.
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Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

The building wasn't overrun by a mob. You're confusing J6 with the fascist mobs that rioted, looted, & burned multiple cities in the summer of 2020 with no justice.


I watched it, as did most of America. If overrunning Police Barricades, breaking in windows, forcing Congress to evacuate, and taking over Congress is not rioting? Keep re-writing history. No one that saw Jan 6th said that was good on that day. EVERYONE was back tracking. It was only after Bannon and his team started re-writing that it became "patriotic".

As for the other, "Historian" you should know that those are State crimes, no where near the same level as taking over the Capital.

Really? You see no difference between State/City looting and stopping the Certification of an Election? Just how much are you willing to sell out for Trump? You really think this clown is worth it???

I see a huge difference between one incident on one day with minimal violence instigated by the FBI & CIA and dozens of riots in multiple cities for months with hundreds of serious crimes including violence, looting, burglaries, tapes, arson, & murder. Also some of those buildings that were attacked were federal buildings. That is a federal crime.

The fascists ard not interested in justice when they hound everyone who was there, regardless of their role, except the Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt in cold blood and the govt jack boot thugs who instigated the "storming" of the building. It was a modern day Reichstag fire.

At the same time, they ignore dozens of far more serious crimes like those listed above, ignore the attacks on pro-life pregnancy centers (including arson & vandalism), prosecute pro-life activists for protesting mass murder, interfere in another election with bogus prosecutions of the leading candidate for president, and numerous blatantly illegal and unconstitutional actions. Their behaviors resemble those of the Gestapo & the SD, SA, etc. it's truly alarming how much they are going full Nazi on us.

Anyone who actually believes in the constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, should be very concerned about so many violations of Americans' 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment (especially due process), 6th amendment, & 8th amendment rights. America has become a banana republic under the fascists.


No it isn't, the one incident was an attack on our entire form of Government and the peaceful transfer of power. That is the basis of this Nation. You don't more significant than that. Take a look at the pictures of Secret Service with weapons drawn, Congress being evacuated, military clad people with fist in air on Speaker podium. Bunch of Grandad's taking selfies... You guys are so FOS. If it was DEMS you would be calling for death penalty.




J6 wasn't an attack on anything. It was a protest against fraud in an election resulting an an incompetent, illegal administration. It was far more patriotic than anything the elected criminals were doing inside. More importantly, it is still being used as a tool by the fascists to oppress Americans. The Reichstag Fire is an apt analogy.

Our fake president is currently destroying our country and the fascists are doing everything they can to undermine representative government, often committing treason in the process.







Yeah, never happened... Peaceful demonstration.

Even when you try to show violent pictures is just guys standing around not attacking anyone.

Now there were some fists flying and some violence....no one ever denied that.

But it was a 99% peaceful protest
1,000 arrests say otherwise.

Well that is the point right....thousands of arrests for non-violent crimes like trespassing and "parading".

All charged to the max.

And it just makes it more hypocritical to watch as the government in DC dropped the charges for the same crimes when it involved BLM protestors and rioters
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Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

The building wasn't overrun by a mob. You're confusing J6 with the fascist mobs that rioted, looted, & burned multiple cities in the summer of 2020 with no justice.


I watched it, as did most of America. If overrunning Police Barricades, breaking in windows, forcing Congress to evacuate, and taking over Congress is not rioting? Keep re-writing history. No one that saw Jan 6th said that was good on that day. EVERYONE was back tracking. It was only after Bannon and his team started re-writing that it became "patriotic".

As for the other, "Historian" you should know that those are State crimes, no where near the same level as taking over the Capital.

Really? You see no difference between State/City looting and stopping the Certification of an Election? Just how much are you willing to sell out for Trump? You really think this clown is worth it???

I see a huge difference between one incident on one day with minimal violence instigated by the FBI & CIA and dozens of riots in multiple cities for months with hundreds of serious crimes including violence, looting, burglaries, tapes, arson, & murder. Also some of those buildings that were attacked were federal buildings. That is a federal crime.

The fascists ard not interested in justice when they hound everyone who was there, regardless of their role, except the Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt in cold blood and the govt jack boot thugs who instigated the "storming" of the building. It was a modern day Reichstag fire.

At the same time, they ignore dozens of far more serious crimes like those listed above, ignore the attacks on pro-life pregnancy centers (including arson & vandalism), prosecute pro-life activists for protesting mass murder, interfere in another election with bogus prosecutions of the leading candidate for president, and numerous blatantly illegal and unconstitutional actions. Their behaviors resemble those of the Gestapo & the SD, SA, etc. it's truly alarming how much they are going full Nazi on us.

Anyone who actually believes in the constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, should be very concerned about so many violations of Americans' 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment (especially due process), 6th amendment, & 8th amendment rights. America has become a banana republic under the fascists.

Every single insurrectionist knew what they were doing was wrong, they just simply wanted their guy to win.



It is truly pathetic. And before you try to mince the argument up with "yeah but black people and BLM" just remember the no matter what anyone else does, we have the rule of law here, .


1. The vast vast majority of protestors there that day were peaceful. They certainly did not know what they were doing was wrong.

And in fact those that peacefully protested that day did NOTHING wrong at all.


2. But the BLM riots proved that we don't in fact have a neutral rule of law in this country.

The dropping of charges and low ball punishments proved that certain special classes of people can basically do what they want if it's see has as being in the interests of the regime in DC

You won't even call it trespassing?


Not in the people's national capital building….

The citizens of this county should not be barred from the steps of the Capitol or the public rotunda and public areas of the building.

Oh, so you are totally ignorant? Why is that? I mean why are you ignorant, and why do you think people should be able to barge in on a session of Congress?
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Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

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The building wasn't overrun by a mob. You're confusing J6 with the fascist mobs that rioted, looted, & burned multiple cities in the summer of 2020 with no justice.


I watched it, as did most of America. If overrunning Police Barricades, breaking in windows, forcing Congress to evacuate, and taking over Congress is not rioting? Keep re-writing history. No one that saw Jan 6th said that was good on that day. EVERYONE was back tracking. It was only after Bannon and his team started re-writing that it became "patriotic".

As for the other, "Historian" you should know that those are State crimes, no where near the same level as taking over the Capital.

Really? You see no difference between State/City looting and stopping the Certification of an Election? Just how much are you willing to sell out for Trump? You really think this clown is worth it???

I see a huge difference between one incident on one day with minimal violence instigated by the FBI & CIA and dozens of riots in multiple cities for months with hundreds of serious crimes including violence, looting, burglaries, tapes, arson, & murder. Also some of those buildings that were attacked were federal buildings. That is a federal crime.

The fascists ard not interested in justice when they hound everyone who was there, regardless of their role, except the Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt in cold blood and the govt jack boot thugs who instigated the "storming" of the building. It was a modern day Reichstag fire.

At the same time, they ignore dozens of far more serious crimes like those listed above, ignore the attacks on pro-life pregnancy centers (including arson & vandalism), prosecute pro-life activists for protesting mass murder, interfere in another election with bogus prosecutions of the leading candidate for president, and numerous blatantly illegal and unconstitutional actions. Their behaviors resemble those of the Gestapo & the SD, SA, etc. it's truly alarming how much they are going full Nazi on us.

Anyone who actually believes in the constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, should be very concerned about so many violations of Americans' 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment (especially due process), 6th amendment, & 8th amendment rights. America has become a banana republic under the fascists.

Every single insurrectionist knew what they were doing was wrong, they just simply wanted their guy to win.



It is truly pathetic. And before you try to mince the argument up with "yeah but black people and BLM" just remember the no matter what anyone else does, we have the rule of law here, .


1. The vast vast majority of protestors there that day were peaceful. They certainly did not know what they were doing was wrong.

And in fact those that peacefully protested that day did NOTHING wrong at all.


2. But the BLM riots proved that we don't in fact have a neutral rule of law in this country.

The dropping of charges and low ball punishments proved that certain special classes of people can basically do what they want if it's see has as being in the interests of the regime in DC

You won't even call it trespassing?


Not in the people's national capital building….

The citizens of this county should not be barred from the steps of the Capitol or the public rotunda and public areas of the building.

Oh, so you are totally ignorant? Why is that? I mean why are you ignorant, and why do you think people should be able to barge in on a session of Congress?

I said the people of the United States have a right to enter the Peoples House (they paid for it & they own it)

Obviously if the Congress wants to limit access to the House Floor or the Senate Chamber they have that right (for limited time frames to conduct certain business)

But no they don't have a good reason to prevent the people from protesting at the National Capitol building
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Rule of law should dictate that people wanting to stop the peaceful transfer of power, hang the Vice President, bring Pelosi to justice, should be found guilty after they storm the Capitol building.

You can call it whatever you want, I'm over fighting for the dictionary (maybe), but what you want is for them to get off scot free, which is precisely at odds with your rule of law rhetoric.
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Redbrickbear said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

The building wasn't overrun by a mob. You're confusing J6 with the fascist mobs that rioted, looted, & burned multiple cities in the summer of 2020 with no justice.


I watched it, as did most of America. If overrunning Police Barricades, breaking in windows, forcing Congress to evacuate, and taking over Congress is not rioting? Keep re-writing history. No one that saw Jan 6th said that was good on that day. EVERYONE was back tracking. It was only after Bannon and his team started re-writing that it became "patriotic".

As for the other, "Historian" you should know that those are State crimes, no where near the same level as taking over the Capital.

Really? You see no difference between State/City looting and stopping the Certification of an Election? Just how much are you willing to sell out for Trump? You really think this clown is worth it???

I see a huge difference between one incident on one day with minimal violence instigated by the FBI & CIA and dozens of riots in multiple cities for months with hundreds of serious crimes including violence, looting, burglaries, tapes, arson, & murder. Also some of those buildings that were attacked were federal buildings. That is a federal crime.

The fascists ard not interested in justice when they hound everyone who was there, regardless of their role, except the Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt in cold blood and the govt jack boot thugs who instigated the "storming" of the building. It was a modern day Reichstag fire.

At the same time, they ignore dozens of far more serious crimes like those listed above, ignore the attacks on pro-life pregnancy centers (including arson & vandalism), prosecute pro-life activists for protesting mass murder, interfere in another election with bogus prosecutions of the leading candidate for president, and numerous blatantly illegal and unconstitutional actions. Their behaviors resemble those of the Gestapo & the SD, SA, etc. it's truly alarming how much they are going full Nazi on us.

Anyone who actually believes in the constitution, especially the Bill of Rights, should be very concerned about so many violations of Americans' 1st amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment (especially due process), 6th amendment, & 8th amendment rights. America has become a banana republic under the fascists.


No it isn't, the one incident was an attack on our entire form of Government and the peaceful transfer of power. That is the basis of this Nation. You don't more significant than that. Take a look at the pictures of Secret Service with weapons drawn, Congress being evacuated, military clad people with fist in air on Speaker podium. Bunch of Grandad's taking selfies... You guys are so FOS. If it was DEMS you would be calling for death penalty.




J6 wasn't an attack on anything. It was a protest against fraud in an election resulting an an incompetent, illegal administration. It was far more patriotic than anything the elected criminals were doing inside. More importantly, it is still being used as a tool by the fascists to oppress Americans. The Reichstag Fire is an apt analogy.

Our fake president is currently destroying our country and the fascists are doing everything they can to undermine representative government, often committing treason in the process.







Yeah, never happened... Peaceful demonstration.

Even when you try to show violent pictures is just guys standing around not attacking anyone.

Now there were some fists flying and some violence....no one ever denied that.

But it was a 99% peaceful protest
1,000 arrests say otherwise.

Well that is the point right....thousands of arrests for non-violent crimes like trespassing and "parading".

All charged to the max.

And it just makes it more hypocritical to watch as the government in DC dropped the charges for the same crimes when it involved BLM protestors and rioters
True but only if one squints real hard to see a "parade"
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Of course not! Our illustrious fake president probably considers them heroes & agrees with them.
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Hey probably would have joined in. They would be totally appalled by most of what our government does today.
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Not really. The fascists label pro-lifers and parents protesting schools who allow boys into girls bathrooms "terrorists". It's a good bet that most of those arrests were fraudulent. The FBI resembles the Gestapo. Biden, et al have turned this country into a banana republic.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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The police invited them in, or at least some of them. That's not a "tactical" move.
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historian said:

The policed invited them in, or at least some of them. That's not a "tactical" move.


They didn't invite anyone in, they removed a barrier that was going to be overrun. They were not allowed to be there, the building was posted closed, they went in. Pretty open and shut. Even if someone invited them in, they had no authority to do so.
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They opened doors for them and escorted them through the halls.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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historian said:

They opened doors for them and escorted them through the halls.
And what were they supposed to do? They escorted them through and made arrests outside of the Capital and crowd. They used tech to identify, confirm and arrest.

Think about it. Look at your pictures, you go full riot gear and get aggressive in the Capital the destruction to property and history is immeasurable. The Police were outnumbered operating in a historic facility, you go full military?

I think you are being too focused on what you are calling permission, which they had no authorization to grant, and diffusing to protect life and property. A very small percentage of those that took part were actually arrested. I you went inside, you should be arrested, period.
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historian said:

The police invited them in, or at least some of them. That's not a "tactical" move.
You live in an alternate reality. I guess that's no surprise since the whole "protest" was based on a myth in the first place.
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Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

The police invited them in, or at least some of them. That's not a "tactical" move.
…that's no surprise since the whole "protest" was based on a myth in the first place.


So was Black Lives Matter

Statistically cops are less likely to shoot Black men (not more)
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Redbrickbear said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

The police invited them in, or at least some of them. That's not a "tactical" move.
…that's no surprise since the whole "protest" was based on a myth in the first place.


So was Black Lives Matter

Statistically cops are less likely to shoot Black men (not more)

You're not disputing that J6 protests were based on a myth
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Osodecentx said:

Redbrickbear said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

The police invited them in, or at least some of them. That's not a "tactical" move.
…that's no surprise since the whole "protest" was based on a myth in the first place.


So was Black Lives Matter

Statistically cops are less likely to shoot Black men (not more)

You're not disputing that J6 protests were based on a myth


Jan. 6 was certainly based on less of a myth than Black Lives Matter summer of riots.

We have the accurate data on police shootings and Black male crime in America.

And we have had that data for decades.
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This is really simple: If it was an "insurrection," charge them with treason and hang them in front of the Capitol."

Otherwise, stop ghosting everyone to create a fake political tool for the small minded.
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Redbrickbear said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

The police invited them in, or at least some of them. That's not a "tactical" move.
…that's no surprise since the whole "protest" was based on a myth in the first place.


So was Black Lives Matter
I never bought into that either.
 
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