Sam Lowry said:
Mothra said:
Sam Lowry said:
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Sam Lowry said:
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Sam Lowry said:
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Sam Lowry said:
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Sam Lowry said:
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Perhaps, but...
...he's still kind of a Putin stooge. %A0Saw him on TV a couple of days ago actually insisting that Putin didn't kill Nalvany. %A0To reach that conclusion already is incredible. %A0We all know Putin did it.
What evidence (besides "Russia! %A0Russia! %A0Russia!" and "Putin! %A0Putin! %A0Putin!" do you have that Putin ordered Navalny's assassination?
Probably vaccinated guy dies suddenly. %A0There's a lot of that going on these days.
Hmm, I don't know. %A0Perhaps its that he already tried to kill him once by poisoning him?
I know, I know. %A0Probably just a coincidence.
We're taking the German government's word that Navalny was poisoned. When Russia requested the evidence, it was refused.
Well, I'd take the word of Nalvany himself and a Western democracy over the Russian govt.'s word any day of the week, but that's the difference between us. You prefer the word of despots and dictators.
And of course, young people without serious health issues die all the time in Russian prisons, right? %A0It's perfectly natural, as is hiding their bodies. Kind of like planes carrying Putin's political opponents fall from the sky and his opponents fall from windows. %A0I am sure he had absolutely nothing to do with it.
The difference between us is that I prefer evidence. I don't think Putin has even said anything one way or another.
Again, sounds good in principle. But I suppose we are to ignore the circumstantial evidence then? %A0Are we to ignore the numerous political prisoners and the deaths among those who have fallen out of favor with Putin? %A0Is it really normal for that many people to fall from tall buildings? %A0Is it normal for planes carrying Putin's enemies to fall out of the sky? %A0Is it normal for Navalny to be exposed to a nerve agent, and then die a few short years later at the ripe old age of 40-something in a Russian prison where the camera stopped working? %A0Is it normal for the Russians to hide his body, and insist on no autopsies? %A0
I guess we could just check our brains at the door until we get direct evidence linking Putin to the crime. %A0Is that what you would prefer? %A0Has Putin earned your trust, Sam?
I predicted Prigozhin's death, so that was no surprise to me. Putin's responsibility for the others is questionable. See for example the biography by Philip Short. Even Litvinenko made different accusations before changing his story. I don't really have a preference as to what you believe. I'm just pointing out that it is a belief, not a fact.
So because you predicted his death, what? %A0It was acceptable for Putin to cause his plane to "malfunction"?
You have a regime that regularly imprisons political opponents and a former member of the KGB running the country, invades its neighbors, forces prisoners to die in droves on Ukraine's front lines, commits human rights violations, uses Americans who travel or live there as pawns, and we are supposed to check our brains at the door when we see numerous suspicious deaths, all because we don't have direct evidence linking Putin to the crime? %A0How about Nalvany tracking down the individuals who put the Russian-made Novichok nerve agent in his underwear, and spoke with his would-be assassin, who admitted Putin ordered the hit? %A0How about the German toxicology reports regarding same? %A0What about the fact that the Russians will not release Nalvany's body? %A0
I am not asking you to convince me of anything. %A0Instead, I am asking what you believe. Do none of the aforementioned issues raise red flags for you? %A0Do you really take Putin's denials at face value?
The Russians have released Navalny's body. It's the Germans who haven't released the toxicology reports you speak of. I don't take any of it at face value.
Yes, to his mother - after 10 days and in a significant state of decomposition (again, convenient) - on the promise that he will be privately and quickly buried. %A0Hmmm, wonder why?
Just to be clear, is it your position that Navalany did indeed die of natural causes, was justly imprisoned, and was never poisoned? %A0
I don't know and neither do you.
Oh, I agree. %A0As I said, we will never know for sure. %A0But we can speculate and ask questions, especially given the suspicious circumstances pointed out above, agreed? %A0Or is that off limits as well, in your book?
Speculation as in, "Only Russian shills and Putin-sucking rubes would dispute the plainly obvious?" That kind of speculation?
Let me clarify - you're not a Putin dick-sucking rube because of your position on Navalny but because of your parroting of Russian bull **** proaganda on the invasion and slaughter of the Ukrainians.
None of which you can refute with anything except name-calling, emojis, and obvious misreading of texts. One might speculate that you're less than objective on the topic.
Your bull**** has been REPEATEDLY debunked. Even the author of the very article you cited in support of your position that Putin was justified invading because of "the Nazis" said as much, stating that Putin has exaggerated the neo-Nazi issue in Ukraine to justify his "illegal" invasion.
I mean, when you don't even agree with the author of the very article you cited to support your defense of the Russians killing Ukrainians, there is no reasoning with you.
Again, an embarrassingly obvious misreading of the text. You've twisted the whole thing into the opposite of what the author was saying.
I wasn't commenting on the author's point in writing the article. Instead, I was commenting on the fact that one of the articles you posted in support of your stated position that the neo-Nazi element in Ukraine justified the invasion is debunked by the very author who wrote the article:
"Azov's existence allows Putin to justify his
illegal invasion
by claiming he is "de-Nazifying" Ukraine. Putin's rhetoric allows Azov to further justify its existence to Western countries based on its opposition to Putin, and receive more support from the Ukrainian government. This gives Putin even more
rhetorical weight to justify his invasion of Ukraine, and so the cycle continues."
I agree, it is embarrassing, but not for me.
