Oldbear83 said:

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When I was a kid, I earned my God & Country medal as a Boy Scout.

Are Boy Scouts therefore 'Christian Nationalists'?

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No... once they allowed homos into leadership roles... they were no longer considered a domestic terrorist organization.

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Oldbear83 said:

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When I was a kid, I earned my God & Country medal as a Boy Scout.

Are Boy Scouts therefore 'Christian Nationalists'?

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No... once they allowed homos into leadership roles... they were no longer considered a domestic terrorist organization.

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forgot about that, guess that was when I stopped considering the BSA to be a Christ-serving group.

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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Porteroso said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan and company now say they’re going to make it their top “all of the House” priority to focus on the critical, existential issue of “Anti-Semitism” on college campuses. Is this really the #1 issue for ordinary Americans? Or just the House GOP? pic.twitter.com/08UXqsMbMn

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 30, 2024

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Of course it is a top priority.

If one group of citizens can be targeted like this with impunity, and
no retribution for blatant antisemitism, then any group of citizens
can be targeted in a similar way.



GOP leadership is weak,

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They have been pretty strong on being against anti-semitism

The question is where were they during the anti-White pogroms during BLM?

Mitt Romney was out there marching in the street with the DC BLM

Has any top GOP leader been out marching in the street with the pro-Palestinian protestors? of course not

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Rarely do I defend BLM for anything, but there were different kinds of BLM marches and protests. Yea, it's become a punch line, but fact is, a majority were peaceful and reasonable. There were, in fact, multiple marches where police forces joined. There were prayer sessions involving all kinds. If any of those would have been near me, I may well have attended. As for those that were violent/radical, there were plenty of conservative politicians and influencers calling it out and saying more should be done.

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Based on the fact that the BLM marches were predicated on the lie that police are hunting down innocent black people NONE of the BLM marches were "reasonable."

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Whether police always do the right thing or not, it is always reasonable to ask them to do the right thing.

The vast majority of BLM protesters were asking that police who kill innocent blacks be held accountable, and that they seek to treat everyone fairly.

It could be argued that in the past decade or 2 police themselves have become much more diverse, better representing the demographics of the U.S., and that for every mistreatment of a black American, there are probably 3 of a white American. However, the centuries before that created a narrative very different, and when such injustice has been perpetrated for so long, it just takes more than 1 or 2 decades of fair policecwork to change the societal narrative.

The peaceful BLM protests were exactly reasonable, and anyone making use of their right to peacefully protest, I applaud, even if I disagree with the cause.

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I'm glad that you also agree that the blm riots were about feelings and narrative rather than facts and reality.

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Centuries of police brutality is a fact. Yes people care. I do think recent police brutality was vastly overstated by mainstream media, but I am glad that people protested this perception. If you thought it was real, you'd have to be a real monster to not support such protests.

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In an earlier forum, you called me a racist for thinking that BLM was pushing a false narrative: https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/111918/replies/2849864

Here's your quote: "I love that phrase, false BLM narrative. You might as well just lead with "I'm racist.""

You were rightfully lambasted for that opinion. Anyway, I'm just wondering if you've learned anything since then, and if you still think it's racist for believing it's a false narrative.

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Their narrative is that black lives matter. BLM was a movement about more than police brutality. Specific to police brutality, police still brutalize black men, just at the same rate as everyone else. There is little evidence that blacks are treated differently by police. However that is different from trying to paint the whole BLM narrative as false. Just think of what you are saying, when you say "the black lives matter narrative is false." Racist as hell dude.

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And there it is. If you don't support the violent grift BLM then you are racist. Pitiful.

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All you have to do is be capable of saying that black lives matter. Anyone who says they don't is probably racist. I'd love to hear the explanation of why though. You can support equality and still not support violence. Or is that too complicated?

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I'd love to hear your explanation why simply believing the narrative BLM pushes is untrue is racist.

Maybe you aren't the one who should be determining the litmus test for racism.

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Again, the narrative that black lives matter espouses is that black lives matter. Anyone who thinks that statement is false is racist, unless they think no lives matter. It is really simple. I don't think I can really make it any clearer.

Conservatives love to pretend that blm is actually about hatred, and sure, there are total racist haters in blm, but the narrative that much of the country accepted long ago is the very name of the movement.

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Regardless of what you THINK the narrative represented.

The net result from BLM was more racial hatred and division getting spread.

It was NOT a unifying movement. It was a divisive movement.

Porteroso said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan and company now say they’re going to make it their top “all of the House” priority to focus on the critical, existential issue of “Anti-Semitism” on college campuses. Is this really the #1 issue for ordinary Americans? Or just the House GOP? pic.twitter.com/08UXqsMbMn

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 30, 2024

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Of course it is a top priority.

If one group of citizens can be targeted like this with impunity, and
no retribution for blatant antisemitism, then any group of citizens
can be targeted in a similar way.



GOP leadership is weak,

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They have been pretty strong on being against anti-semitism

The question is where were they during the anti-White pogroms during BLM?

Mitt Romney was out there marching in the street with the DC BLM

Has any top GOP leader been out marching in the street with the pro-Palestinian protestors? of course not

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Rarely do I defend BLM for anything, but there were different kinds of BLM marches and protests. Yea, it's become a punch line, but fact is, a majority were peaceful and reasonable. There were, in fact, multiple marches where police forces joined. There were prayer sessions involving all kinds. If any of those would have been near me, I may well have attended. As for those that were violent/radical, there were plenty of conservative politicians and influencers calling it out and saying more should be done.

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Based on the fact that the BLM marches were predicated on the lie that police are hunting down innocent black people NONE of the BLM marches were "reasonable."

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Whether police always do the right thing or not, it is always reasonable to ask them to do the right thing.

The vast majority of BLM protesters were asking that police who kill innocent blacks be held accountable, and that they seek to treat everyone fairly.

It could be argued that in the past decade or 2 police themselves have become much more diverse, better representing the demographics of the U.S., and that for every mistreatment of a black American, there are probably 3 of a white American. However, the centuries before that created a narrative very different, and when such injustice has been perpetrated for so long, it just takes more than 1 or 2 decades of fair policecwork to change the societal narrative.

The peaceful BLM protests were exactly reasonable, and anyone making use of their right to peacefully protest, I applaud, even if I disagree with the cause.

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I'm glad that you also agree that the blm riots were about feelings and narrative rather than facts and reality.

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Centuries of police brutality is a fact. Yes people care. I do think recent police brutality was vastly overstated by mainstream media, but I am glad that people protested this perception. If you thought it was real, you'd have to be a real monster to not support such protests.

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In an earlier forum, you called me a racist for thinking that BLM was pushing a false narrative: https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/111918/replies/2849864

Here's your quote: "I love that phrase, false BLM narrative. You might as well just lead with "I'm racist.""

You were rightfully lambasted for that opinion. Anyway, I'm just wondering if you've learned anything since then, and if you still think it's racist for believing it's a false narrative.

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Their narrative is that black lives matter. BLM was a movement about more than police brutality. Specific to police brutality, police still brutalize black men, just at the same rate as everyone else. There is little evidence that blacks are treated differently by police. However that is different from trying to paint the whole BLM narrative as false. Just think of what you are saying, when you say "the black lives matter narrative is false." Racist as hell dude.

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And there it is. If you don't support the violent grift BLM then you are racist. Pitiful.

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All you have to do is be capable of saying that black lives matter. Anyone who says they don't is probably racist. I'd love to hear the explanation of why though. You can support equality and still not support violence. Or is that too complicated?

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I'd love to hear your explanation why simply believing the narrative BLM pushes is untrue is racist.

Maybe you aren't the one who should be determining the litmus test for racism.

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Again, the narrative that black lives matter espouses is that black lives matter. Anyone who thinks that statement is false is racist, unless they think no lives matter. It is really simple. I don't think I can really make it any clearer.

Conservatives love to pretend that blm is actually about hatred, and sure, there are total racist haters in blm, but the narrative that much of the country accepted long ago is the very name of the movement.

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Bull ***** The BLM narrative is that cops are hunting down and killing innocent black people. Anyone who claims differently is straight up lying. This is proven by the fact BLM marched over exactly ZERO black on black citizen killings.

Porteroso said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan and company now say they’re going to make it their top “all of the House” priority to focus on the critical, existential issue of “Anti-Semitism” on college campuses. Is this really the #1 issue for ordinary Americans? Or just the House GOP? pic.twitter.com/08UXqsMbMn

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 30, 2024

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Of course it is a top priority.

If one group of citizens can be targeted like this with impunity, and
no retribution for blatant antisemitism, then any group of citizens
can be targeted in a similar way.



GOP leadership is weak,

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They have been pretty strong on being against anti-semitism

The question is where were they during the anti-White pogroms during BLM?

Mitt Romney was out there marching in the street with the DC BLM

Has any top GOP leader been out marching in the street with the pro-Palestinian protestors? of course not

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Rarely do I defend BLM for anything, but there were different kinds of BLM marches and protests. Yea, it's become a punch line, but fact is, a majority were peaceful and reasonable. There were, in fact, multiple marches where police forces joined. There were prayer sessions involving all kinds. If any of those would have been near me, I may well have attended. As for those that were violent/radical, there were plenty of conservative politicians and influencers calling it out and saying more should be done.

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Based on the fact that the BLM marches were predicated on the lie that police are hunting down innocent black people NONE of the BLM marches were "reasonable."

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Whether police always do the right thing or not, it is always reasonable to ask them to do the right thing.

The vast majority of BLM protesters were asking that police who kill innocent blacks be held accountable, and that they seek to treat everyone fairly.

It could be argued that in the past decade or 2 police themselves have become much more diverse, better representing the demographics of the U.S., and that for every mistreatment of a black American, there are probably 3 of a white American. However, the centuries before that created a narrative very different, and when such injustice has been perpetrated for so long, it just takes more than 1 or 2 decades of fair policecwork to change the societal narrative.

The peaceful BLM protests were exactly reasonable, and anyone making use of their right to peacefully protest, I applaud, even if I disagree with the cause.

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I'm glad that you also agree that the blm riots were about feelings and narrative rather than facts and reality.

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Centuries of police brutality is a fact. Yes people care. I do think recent police brutality was vastly overstated by mainstream media, but I am glad that people protested this perception. If you thought it was real, you'd have to be a real monster to not support such protests.

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In an earlier forum, you called me a racist for thinking that BLM was pushing a false narrative: https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/111918/replies/2849864

Here's your quote: "I love that phrase, false BLM narrative. You might as well just lead with "I'm racist.""

You were rightfully lambasted for that opinion. Anyway, I'm just wondering if you've learned anything since then, and if you still think it's racist for believing it's a false narrative.

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Their narrative is that black lives matter. BLM was a movement about more than police brutality. Specific to police brutality, police still brutalize black men, just at the same rate as everyone else. There is little evidence that blacks are treated differently by police. However that is different from trying to paint the whole BLM narrative as false. Just think of what you are saying, when you say "the black lives matter narrative is false." Racist as hell dude.

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And there it is. If you don't support the violent grift BLM then you are racist. Pitiful.

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All you have to do is be capable of saying that black lives matter. Anyone who says they don't is probably racist. I'd love to hear the explanation of why though. You can support equality and still not support violence. Or is that too complicated?

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I'd love to hear your explanation why simply believing the narrative BLM pushes is untrue is racist.

Maybe you aren't the one who should be determining the litmus test for racism.

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Again, the narrative that black lives matter espouses is that black lives matter. Anyone who thinks that statement is false is racist…

Conservatives love to pretend that blm is actually about hatred...

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Then BLM and progressives liberals needs to be screaming that at young Black men.

Because it's young Black men who kill the vast majority of Black people in the USA

Stop yelling slogans at White people and tearing down historic statues. It's not White people or metal statues that are killing black people…it's other black people

Only if these kids were this passionate about getting a job

boognish_bear said:

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The University of Mississippi student who made the monkey noises at a Black woman has been kicked out of his fraternity.

Phi Delta Theta announced his removal today.

Earlier, the UM NAACP called on UM to expel Phi Delta Theta member JP Staples. https://t.co/UDwjayEaTl pic.twitter.com/Ebd7PuoGgV

— Ashton Pittman (@ashtonpittman) May 5, 2024

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"Thou must not mock sacred cows"

The modern USA is a religious state….its religion is just not Christianity

Porteroso said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan and company now say they’re going to make it their top “all of the House” priority to focus on the critical, existential issue of “Anti-Semitism” on college campuses. Is this really the #1 issue for ordinary Americans? Or just the House GOP? pic.twitter.com/08UXqsMbMn

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 30, 2024

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Of course it is a top priority.

If one group of citizens can be targeted like this with impunity, and
no retribution for blatant antisemitism, then any group of citizens
can be targeted in a similar way.



GOP leadership is weak,

---

They have been pretty strong on being against anti-semitism

The question is where were they during the anti-White pogroms during BLM?

Mitt Romney was out there marching in the street with the DC BLM

Has any top GOP leader been out marching in the street with the pro-Palestinian protestors? of course not

---

Rarely do I defend BLM for anything, but there were different kinds of BLM marches and protests. Yea, it's become a punch line, but fact is, a majority were peaceful and reasonable. There were, in fact, multiple marches where police forces joined. There were prayer sessions involving all kinds. If any of those would have been near me, I may well have attended. As for those that were violent/radical, there were plenty of conservative politicians and influencers calling it out and saying more should be done.

---

Based on the fact that the BLM marches were predicated on the lie that police are hunting down innocent black people NONE of the BLM marches were "reasonable."

---

Whether police always do the right thing or not, it is always reasonable to ask them to do the right thing.

The vast majority of BLM protesters were asking that police who kill innocent blacks be held accountable, and that they seek to treat everyone fairly.

It could be argued that in the past decade or 2 police themselves have become much more diverse, better representing the demographics of the U.S., and that for every mistreatment of a black American, there are probably 3 of a white American. However, the centuries before that created a narrative very different, and when such injustice has been perpetrated for so long, it just takes more than 1 or 2 decades of fair policecwork to change the societal narrative.

The peaceful BLM protests were exactly reasonable, and anyone making use of their right to peacefully protest, I applaud, even if I disagree with the cause.

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I'm glad that you also agree that the blm riots were about feelings and narrative rather than facts and reality.

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Centuries of police brutality is a fact. Yes people care. I do think recent police brutality was vastly overstated by mainstream media, but I am glad that people protested this perception. If you thought it was real, you'd have to be a real monster to not support such protests.

---

In an earlier forum, you called me a racist for thinking that BLM was pushing a false narrative: https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/111918/replies/2849864

Here's your quote: "I love that phrase, false BLM narrative. You might as well just lead with "I'm racist.""

You were rightfully lambasted for that opinion. Anyway, I'm just wondering if you've learned anything since then, and if you still think it's racist for believing it's a false narrative.

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Their narrative is that black lives matter. BLM was a movement about more than police brutality. Specific to police brutality, police still brutalize black men, just at the same rate as everyone else. There is little evidence that blacks are treated differently by police. However that is different from trying to paint the whole BLM narrative as false. Just think of what you are saying, when you say "the black lives matter narrative is false." Racist as hell dude.

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And there it is. If you don't support the violent grift BLM then you are racist. Pitiful.

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All you have to do is be capable of saying that black lives matter. Anyone who says they don't is probably racist. I'd love to hear the explanation of why though. You can support equality and still not support violence. Or is that too complicated?

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I'd love to hear your explanation why simply believing the narrative BLM pushes is untrue is racist.

Maybe you aren't the one who should be determining the litmus test for racism.

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Again, the narrative that black lives matter espouses is that black lives matter. Anyone who thinks that statement is false is racist, unless they think no lives matter. It is really simple. I don't think I can really make it any clearer.

Conservatives love to pretend that blm is actually about hatred, and sure, there are total racist haters in blm, but the narrative that much of the country accepted long ago is the very name of the movement.

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Normally, at this point I would accuse the person with your take of employing a classic "motte and bailey" fallacy in defense of BLM. But considering that the whole body of your posts have revealed an alarming degree of general cluelessness, I'm going to assume that it is quite probable that you are unable to think past a mere slogan and so you authentically believe that is all what BLM is about. If you don't know what a motte and bailey fallacy is, look it up.

But if you know my posting history, you'll know that I don't give up so easily on the generally clueless (and/or dishonest), and I often take the effort to boil things down to try to make that person see/admit their error. But I have to admit, though, I don't think I'll see much success with you, given how in the past you've ended up just doubling down on what is obviously downright stupid to any normal, rational person (like how you blame parents for willfully and purposefully exposing their children to drag queens... but somehow you don't blame the drag queens themselves for their part in willfully and purposefully exposing children to drag queens).

Regardless, I will try. The first thing I'd like to tell you is this: read what others have been saying to you in response. Don't just dismiss what they're saying like you usually do and just go on repeating yourself just because what they said doesn't fit into your established schema regarding BLM. Try to actually process and incorporate it, and weigh it against your reasoning. For example, take the point someone made that if you say "all lives matter" or "white lives matter" at an angry BLM protest you'd be met with quite a bit of hostility. I think ANY sane, rational, thinking person knows this to be TRUE. I hate to put it like this, but whoever doesn't think so is a moron. An absolute moron. And this isn't just true for an angry BLM mob, this would happen to people in the workplace or to pundits on the news/twitter or in politics - people have been CANCELLED over such things. So ask yourself, since it is true that you'd be met with hostility (and as someone pointed out, maybe even killed) - WHY is that? Tell us why you think that is. That's the first step.

Next, look at the graphs given by RedBrick - if the narrative is just that black lives matter, then wouldn't they be directing that narrative to the wrong group of people?? How do these facts line up with your understanding of the BLM narrative?

Another question you need to ask yourself is this: why, if in this country it is widely held that ALL lives matter, is there even a need to single out one race's lives as "mattering"? If all lives matter, wouldn't that just be a superfluous truism, like saying "the sky is blue", "water is wet", or "breathing oxygen is good"? In other words, what exactly are they insinuating by saying we as a society need to affirm that "black lives matter"? Why is there so much anger and passion along with it? Would anyone be so similarly angry and passionate over the fact that "water is wet"? No, they wouldn't, it would be because there is more to what they're saying behind the slogan, right? What do you think it is?

Start there. Please answer those questions.

Folks, sorry for the extra long post. I'm bored, and besides this guy really needs more than pithy responses, he is in need of an intervention, really.

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan and company now say they’re going to make it their top “all of the House” priority to focus on the critical, existential issue of “Anti-Semitism” on college campuses. Is this really the #1 issue for ordinary Americans? Or just the House GOP? pic.twitter.com/08UXqsMbMn

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 30, 2024

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Of course it is a top priority.

If one group of citizens can be targeted like this with impunity, and
no retribution for blatant antisemitism, then any group of citizens
can be targeted in a similar way.



GOP leadership is weak,

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They have been pretty strong on being against anti-semitism

The question is where were they during the anti-White pogroms during BLM?

Mitt Romney was out there marching in the street with the DC BLM

Has any top GOP leader been out marching in the street with the pro-Palestinian protestors? of course not

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Rarely do I defend BLM for anything, but there were different kinds of BLM marches and protests. Yea, it's become a punch line, but fact is, a majority were peaceful and reasonable. There were, in fact, multiple marches where police forces joined. There were prayer sessions involving all kinds. If any of those would have been near me, I may well have attended. As for those that were violent/radical, there were plenty of conservative politicians and influencers calling it out and saying more should be done.

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Based on the fact that the BLM marches were predicated on the lie that police are hunting down innocent black people NONE of the BLM marches were "reasonable."

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Whether police always do the right thing or not, it is always reasonable to ask them to do the right thing.

The vast majority of BLM protesters were asking that police who kill innocent blacks be held accountable, and that they seek to treat everyone fairly.

It could be argued that in the past decade or 2 police themselves have become much more diverse, better representing the demographics of the U.S., and that for every mistreatment of a black American, there are probably 3 of a white American. However, the centuries before that created a narrative very different, and when such injustice has been perpetrated for so long, it just takes more than 1 or 2 decades of fair policecwork to change the societal narrative.

The peaceful BLM protests were exactly reasonable, and anyone making use of their right to peacefully protest, I applaud, even if I disagree with the cause.

---

I'm glad that you also agree that the blm riots were about feelings and narrative rather than facts and reality.

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Centuries of police brutality is a fact. Yes people care. I do think recent police brutality was vastly overstated by mainstream media, but I am glad that people protested this perception. If you thought it was real, you'd have to be a real monster to not support such protests.

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In an earlier forum, you called me a racist for thinking that BLM was pushing a false narrative: https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/111918/replies/2849864

Here's your quote: "I love that phrase, false BLM narrative. You might as well just lead with "I'm racist.""

You were rightfully lambasted for that opinion. Anyway, I'm just wondering if you've learned anything since then, and if you still think it's racist for believing it's a false narrative.

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Their narrative is that black lives matter. BLM was a movement about more than police brutality. Specific to police brutality, police still brutalize black men, just at the same rate as everyone else. There is little evidence that blacks are treated differently by police. However that is different from trying to paint the whole BLM narrative as false. Just think of what you are saying, when you say "the black lives matter narrative is false." Racist as hell dude.

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And there it is. If you don't support the violent grift BLM then you are racist. Pitiful.

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All you have to do is be capable of saying that black lives matter. Anyone who says they don't is probably racist. I'd love to hear the explanation of why though. You can support equality and still not support violence. Or is that too complicated?

---

I'd love to hear your explanation why simply believing the narrative BLM pushes is untrue is racist.

Maybe you aren't the one who should be determining the litmus test for racism.

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Again, the narrative that black lives matter espouses is that black lives matter. Anyone who thinks that statement is false is racist, unless they think no lives matter. It is really simple. I don't think I can really make it any clearer.

Conservatives love to pretend that blm is actually about hatred, and sure, there are total racist haters in blm, but the narrative that much of the country accepted long ago is the very name of the movement.

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Too bad that BLM the group doesn't think that BLM the narrative is important enough to go to cities like Chicago and tell the BLM supporters to stop killing each other.

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Porteroso said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan and company now say they’re going to make it their top “all of the House” priority to focus on the critical, existential issue of “Anti-Semitism” on college campuses. Is this really the #1 issue for ordinary Americans? Or just the House GOP? pic.twitter.com/08UXqsMbMn

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 30, 2024

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Of course it is a top priority.

If one group of citizens can be targeted like this with impunity, and
no retribution for blatant antisemitism, then any group of citizens
can be targeted in a similar way.



GOP leadership is weak,

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They have been pretty strong on being against anti-semitism

The question is where were they during the anti-White pogroms during BLM?

Mitt Romney was out there marching in the street with the DC BLM

Has any top GOP leader been out marching in the street with the pro-Palestinian protestors? of course not

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Rarely do I defend BLM for anything, but there were different kinds of BLM marches and protests. Yea, it's become a punch line, but fact is, a majority were peaceful and reasonable. There were, in fact, multiple marches where police forces joined. There were prayer sessions involving all kinds. If any of those would have been near me, I may well have attended. As for those that were violent/radical, there were plenty of conservative politicians and influencers calling it out and saying more should be done.

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Based on the fact that the BLM marches were predicated on the lie that police are hunting down innocent black people NONE of the BLM marches were "reasonable."

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Whether police always do the right thing or not, it is always reasonable to ask them to do the right thing.

The vast majority of BLM protesters were asking that police who kill innocent blacks be held accountable, and that they seek to treat everyone fairly.

It could be argued that in the past decade or 2 police themselves have become much more diverse, better representing the demographics of the U.S., and that for every mistreatment of a black American, there are probably 3 of a white American. However, the centuries before that created a narrative very different, and when such injustice has been perpetrated for so long, it just takes more than 1 or 2 decades of fair policecwork to change the societal narrative.

The peaceful BLM protests were exactly reasonable, and anyone making use of their right to peacefully protest, I applaud, even if I disagree with the cause.

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I'm glad that you also agree that the blm riots were about feelings and narrative rather than facts and reality.

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Centuries of police brutality is a fact. Yes people care. I do think recent police brutality was vastly overstated by mainstream media, but I am glad that people protested this perception. If you thought it was real, you'd have to be a real monster to not support such protests.

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In an earlier forum, you called me a racist for thinking that BLM was pushing a false narrative: https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/111918/replies/2849864

Here's your quote: "I love that phrase, false BLM narrative. You might as well just lead with "I'm racist.""

You were rightfully lambasted for that opinion. Anyway, I'm just wondering if you've learned anything since then, and if you still think it's racist for believing it's a false narrative.

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Their narrative is that black lives matter. BLM was a movement about more than police brutality. Specific to police brutality, police still brutalize black men, just at the same rate as everyone else. There is little evidence that blacks are treated differently by police. However that is different from trying to paint the whole BLM narrative as false. Just think of what you are saying, when you say "the black lives matter narrative is false." Racist as hell dude.

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And there it is. If you don't support the violent grift BLM then you are racist. Pitiful.

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All you have to do is be capable of saying that black lives matter. Anyone who says they don't is probably racist. I'd love to hear the explanation of why though. You can support equality and still not support violence. Or is that too complicated?

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I'd love to hear your explanation why simply believing the narrative BLM pushes is untrue is racist.

Maybe you aren't the one who should be determining the litmus test for racism.

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Again, the narrative that black lives matter espouses is that black lives matter. Anyone who thinks that statement is false is racist, unless they think no lives matter. It is really simple. I don't think I can really make it any clearer.

Conservatives love to pretend that blm is actually about hatred, and sure, there are total racist haters in blm, but the narrative that much of the country accepted long ago is the very name of the movement.

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Too bad that BLM the group doesn't think that BLM the narrative is important enough to go to cities like Chicago and tell the BLM supporters to stop killing each other.

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You can bet that most (if not all) of these shootings were not done by Whitey

AT LEAST 23 PEOPLE SHOT — 4 FATALLY — IN CHICAGO WEEKEND SHOOTINGS

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) May 5, 2024

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The University of Mississippi student who made the monkey noises at a Black woman has been kicked out of his fraternity.

Phi Delta Theta announced his removal today.

Earlier, the UM NAACP called on UM to expel Phi Delta Theta member JP Staples. https://t.co/UDwjayEaTl pic.twitter.com/Ebd7PuoGgV

— Ashton Pittman (@ashtonpittman) May 5, 2024

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"Thou must not mock sacred cows"

The modern USA is a religious state….its religion is just not Christianity

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I couldn't tell exactly what was happening in the video, but assuming it's true, you think direct racial slurs against blacks are ok?

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Ok? No, I don't think that is ok at all. There is a broad danger, however, in government punishing speech. Today, we may ask the government to punish someone for speech I abhor. Tomorrow, someone else will demand that the government punish me for my speech that they abhor.

sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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The University of Mississippi student who made the monkey noises at a Black woman has been kicked out of his fraternity.

Phi Delta Theta announced his removal today.

Earlier, the UM NAACP called on UM to expel Phi Delta Theta member JP Staples. https://t.co/UDwjayEaTl pic.twitter.com/Ebd7PuoGgV

— Ashton Pittman (@ashtonpittman) May 5, 2024

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"Thou must not mock sacred cows"

The modern USA is a religious state….its religion is just not Christianity

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I couldn't tell exactly what was happening in the video, but assuming it's true, you think direct racial slurs against blacks are ok?

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1. I don't see him say any racial slur.

2. After watching conservative coded protestors (usually white people) get called every name in the book on campus I am numb to the idea that women like this should get preferential treatment…. She got mocked…it was not the end of the world

They always come back to eat their own...why isn't the <checks notes> Governor of Michigan doing anything about the Israel-Gaza conflict?

I don't even like this woman but I would at least let her enjoy a special moment with her family before I start shouting her down.

Governor Gretchen Whitmer gets confronted by crazy liberal HAMAS supporters at her daughters graduation dinner.
Your chickens are coming home to roost governor. pic.twitter.com/cxDs56gzZK

— Vince Langman (@LangmanVince) May 5, 2024

sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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The University of Mississippi student who made the monkey noises at a Black woman has been kicked out of his fraternity.

Phi Delta Theta announced his removal today.

Earlier, the UM NAACP called on UM to expel Phi Delta Theta member JP Staples. https://t.co/UDwjayEaTl pic.twitter.com/Ebd7PuoGgV

— Ashton Pittman (@ashtonpittman) May 5, 2024

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"Thou must not mock sacred cows"

The modern USA is a religious state….its religion is just not Christianity

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I couldn't tell exactly what was happening in the video, but assuming it's true, you think direct racial slurs against blacks are ok?

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1. I don't see him say any racial slur.

2. After watching conservative coded protestors (usually white people) get called every name in the book on campus I am numb to the idea that women like this should get preferential treatment…. She got mocked…it was not the end of the world

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Again, I said assuming it's true, he was doing monkey imitations. That's about as bad a slur as you'll find.

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Why?

If some makes monkey noises at another person…that is implying they are acting like a comic animal

How does the persons race even come into play?

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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The University of Mississippi student who made the monkey noises at a Black woman has been kicked out of his fraternity.

Phi Delta Theta announced his removal today.

Earlier, the UM NAACP called on UM to expel Phi Delta Theta member JP Staples. https://t.co/UDwjayEaTl pic.twitter.com/Ebd7PuoGgV

— Ashton Pittman (@ashtonpittman) May 5, 2024

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"Thou must not mock sacred cows"

The modern USA is a religious state….its religion is just not Christianity

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I couldn't tell exactly what was happening in the video, but assuming it's true, you think direct racial slurs against blacks are ok?

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Ok? No, I don't think that is ok at all. There is a broad danger, however, in government punishing speech. Today, we may ask the government to punish someone for speech I abhor. Tomorrow, someone else will demand that the government punish me for my speech that they abhor.

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A frat is not government, and the Supr Ct held long ago that schools are allowed to apply rules of conduct that otherwise would pose 1st Amend issues.

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I am talking about the call to expel him from school. State schools do have a set of first amendment standards they have to follow and the Supreme Court held long ago that "the precedents of this Court leave no room for the view that…First Amendment protections should apply with less force on college campuses than in the community at large."